I am in the same way. I have not really paid as much attention to it as I probably should have. But still, if Obama supports it, it is probably unconstitutional.ahlycotc wrote:Glen Damon wrote:Agreed, Apple.Macs
Anyway, did you see the news on the Supreme Court? Terrible decision.
Wow, now. Let's not go that far.
Yeah I saw the decision. To be honest, I don't know much about Obama's healthcare, so I can't judge. I think the general idea of universal healthcare is a good one, but I'm not sure if Obama's has major flaws or not.
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Does it still infringe on religious liberties? Or has he done something about that?
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If the healthcare bill is unconstitutional (which is a very liberal interpretation of the constitution I might add), then how is the patriot act not unconstitutional? Sometimes I wonder why the supreme court was established in the first place if it just serves political agendas... Unbelievable.
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The Patriot Act is unconstitutional, in my opinion. The precedent was set by John Adams in 1801, and FDR only made it worse with his ridiculous scheme.Laurencio wrote:If the healthcare bill is unconstitutional (which is a very liberal interpretation of the constitution I might add), then how is the patriot act not unconstitutional? Sometimes I wonder why the supreme court was established in the first place if it just serves political agendas... Unbelievable.
The Supreme Court should, in theory, be the most conservative branch of the government, yet it has simply become more and more liberal. Dark times ahead for the conservatives, I fear.
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Laurencio wrote:If the healthcare bill is unconstitutional (which is a very liberal interpretation of the constitution I might add), then how is the patriot act not unconstitutional? Sometimes I wonder why the supreme court was established in the first place if it just serves political agendas... Unbelievable.
I'm with you 100% on that. You can't always rely on the Supreme CT to do its job.
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Glen Damon wrote:The Patriot Act is unconstitutional, in my opinion. The precedent was set by John Adams in 1801, and FDR only made it worse with his ridiculous scheme.Laurencio wrote:If the healthcare bill is unconstitutional (which is a very liberal interpretation of the constitution I might add), then how is the patriot act not unconstitutional? Sometimes I wonder why the supreme court was established in the first place if it just serves political agendas... Unbelievable.
Dark times ahead for the conservatives, I fear.
Most of the Supreme Court justices were appointed by Republican Presidents if I recall correctly. The whole system is messed up, Democrats or Republicans.
Ron Paul was our last hope.
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Probably, yes. But every president tries to bend the rules to render the Court useless as a "settler of disputes." If one party has the Presidency & both houses of Congress, then they are virtually guaranteed the Supreme Court in the long run. Is that right, though? The two bodies are elected, after all. I just think that there needs to be at least one body that balances it all.ahlycotc wrote:Glen Damon wrote:The Patriot Act is unconstitutional, in my opinion. The precedent was set by John Adams in 1801, and FDR only made it worse with his ridiculous scheme.
Dark times ahead for the conservatives, I fear.
Most of the Supreme Court justices were appointed by Republican Presidents if I recall correctly. The whole system is messed up, Democrats or Republicans.
Ron Paul was our last hope.
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Our whole system needs to be changed. As long as politicans on both sides can become corporate puppets, then expect more of the same. A lot of people might be clamoring for a "Third Party," but that's not going to do anything in the current system that we have. As soon as that party becomes viable, it would have to follow suit and sell its soul if it wants to have the slightest fighting chance.
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Glen Damon wrote:The Patriot Act is unconstitutional, in my opinion. The precedent was set by John Adams in 1801, and FDR only made it worse with his ridiculous scheme.Laurencio wrote:If the healthcare bill is unconstitutional (which is a very liberal interpretation of the constitution I might add), then how is the patriot act not unconstitutional? Sometimes I wonder why the supreme court was established in the first place if it just serves political agendas... Unbelievable.
Dark times ahead for the conservatives, I fear.
Depends on the use of the word conservative. Quite often the Republican or the "conservative" agenda is the most "liberal" interpretation of them all.
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Glen Damon wrote:Probably, yes. But every president tries to bend the rules to render the Court useless as a "settler of disputes." If one party has the Presidency & both houses of Congress, then they are virtually guaranteed the Supreme Court in the long run. Is that right, though? The two bodies are elected, after all. I just think that there needs to be at least one body that balances it all.ahlycotc wrote:
Most of the Supreme Court justices were appointed by Republican Presidents if I recall correctly. The whole system is messed up, Democrats or Republicans.
Ron Paul was our last hope.
In my opinion the SC judges shold be appointed by their peers by merit, not by the president on the basis of politival views, and most certainly not for life. Ofc that is never going to happen as that requires const changes which have to pass through the supreme court and the president, which pretty much guarantees any systemic change is doomed to failure.
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I suppose that my ideal vision is that the President is slightly liberal and tries to push his luck a bit, and the Supreme Court is extremely conservative and reads everything with a narrow reading of the Constitution.Laurencio wrote:Glen Damon wrote:The Patriot Act is unconstitutional, in my opinion. The precedent was set by John Adams in 1801, and FDR only made it worse with his ridiculous scheme.
Dark times ahead for the conservatives, I fear.
Depends on the use of the word conservative. Quite often the Republican or the "conservative" agenda is the most "liberal" interpretation of them all.
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I wish I knew more about British politics.Gatsby wrote:I wish I knew more about American politics.
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What an appropriate end to the discussion.SBSP wrote:That KSI video.
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Glen Damon wrote:What an appropriate end to the discussion.SBSP wrote:That KSI video.
Agreed.
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They are exceptional.
They come in smaller files, but I like having them in MP4. Converting is such a hassle.
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SophisticatedBeggar wrote:Rick Rosstrich wrote:SophisticatedBeggar wrote:mkv files
They are exceptional.
They come in smaller files, but I like having them in MP4. Converting is such a hassle.
My friend, I am officially your saviour.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/rebox.NET - Remuxes mkv files to MP4 without converting. Only takes a few minutes too.
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I normally start downloading games of players Liverpool have signed now. Last season I downloaded a few Sunderland and Aston Villa games.
Liverpool need to hurry up and buy players!
Liverpool need to hurry up and buy players!
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Rick Rosstrich wrote:SophisticatedBeggar wrote:
They come in smaller files, but I like having them in MP4. Converting is such a hassle.
My friend, I am officially your saviour.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/rebox.NET - Remuxes mkv files to MP4 without converting. Only takes a few minutes too.
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SophisticatedBeggar wrote:Rick Rosstrich wrote:SophisticatedBeggar wrote:
They come in smaller files, but I like having them in MP4. Converting is such a hassle.
My friend, I am officially your saviour.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/rebox.NET - Remuxes mkv files to MP4 without converting. Only takes a few minutes too.
If it ever stops working just uninstall then re-install it. It's sometimes really weird and says it can't find the video.
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Chrome coming out on iPhone and iPad tonight. 
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/second discussion joined after everyone's done with it
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SBSP wrote:I hate politics.
/second discussion joined after everyone's done with it
The politics discussion has been over for a while now.
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Rick Rosstrich wrote:Chrome coming out on iPhone and iPad tonight.
Seriously?
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