Portugal vs Spain | 27th June | Euro 2012 - Semi Finals |

Novi, The Creator wrote:

akaranzo wrote:Some of you are real fucking idiots Any person has the right to support whoever they want. I agree - if they change who they support every season then that's retarded and those people can be called glory hunters, but this is not the case right now, Ahly doesn't do that, nor do I. It's kind of logical that we support Spain at the Euros if we are Barca fans isn't it?

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This explains everything.

akaranzo wrote:Some of you are real fucking idiots Any person has the right to support whoever they want. I agree - if they change who they support every season then that's retarded and those people can be called glory hunters, but this is not the case right now, Ahly doesn't do that, nor do I. It's kind of logical that we support Spain at the Euros if we are Barca fans isn't it?

dena wrote:Quite weird to have a player like Ronaldo go last overall, I'd want my best PK taker going somewhere around 3rd.

Glen Damon wrote:Nani buried his (best one on the night) and Meireles was already subbed.

Paulo Bento: "The 5th penalty would have been Ronaldo’s"

Kuled wrote:

Paulo Bento: "The 5th penalty would have been Ronaldo’s"

dena wrote:Quite weird to have a player like Ronaldo go last overall, I'd want my best PK taker going somewhere around 3rd.

Kuled wrote:Maybe Casillas just saves Ronaldo's penalties all the time and he wasn't so confident.

menalawyerguy wrote:

dena wrote:Quite weird to have a player like Ronaldo go last overall, I'd want my best PK taker going somewhere around 3rd.

It makes sense to save him for the more pressure-packed kicks, but once a situation arises where you are not guaranteed to get another kick if you miss the current kick, then the guy has to take that penalty. There's no excuse not to use him on that 4th kick. If they were holding him back so he could potentially have the glory of taking a game winning kick, then that is so fucking gay and so fucking typical of Ronaldo's prima donna attitude. The guy gets douchier by the day.

menalawyerguy wrote:

dena wrote:Quite weird to have a player like Ronaldo go last overall, I'd want my best PK taker going somewhere around 3rd.

It makes sense to save him for the more pressure-packed kicks, but once a situation arises where you are not guaranteed to get another kick if you miss the current kick, then the guy has to take that penalty. There's no excuse not to use him on that 4th kick. If they were holding him back so he could potentially have the glory of taking a game winning kick, then that is so fucking gay and so fucking typical of Ronaldo's prima donna attitude. The guy gets douchier by the day.

But let's stop and think about it for a second. Aren't we used to applauding players for stepping up to take the biggest shot? In basketball, aren't guys like LeBron James, Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant applauded when they take the winning shot, and criticized when they don't? Why then, is there a double standard for Cristiano Ronaldo?

You might say that there are different standards in football, but are there really? Many of football's biggest players have made similar decisions:

In the 2012 Champions League final, Didier Drogba took the fifth and final penalty against Bayern Munich, winning the title for Chelsea.
In the 2012 Africa Cup of Nations, Drogba took the fifth penalty in the penalty shootout with Zambia. His team would go on to lose, but he effectively made the same decision as Ronaldo to take what would've normally been the winning (and highest pressure) penalty.
Also in the 2012 Africa Cup of Nations, Seydou Keita took the fifth and winning penalty in the quarterfinals penalty shootout against Gabon.
In the 2006 World Cup, Cristiano Ronaldo saved himself for fifth penalty in the shootout against England. In that shootout, Ronaldo's penalty won Portugal the game and took them into the semifinals.
In the 2006 Africa Cup of Nations, Nwankwo Kanu, then Nigeria's best player, took the winning penalty against Tunisia in the quarterfinals.
Also in the 2006 Africa Cup of Nations, Drogba took the 12th penalty and final penalty of the game, winning the quarterfinal against Cameroon.
Finally, once again in the 2006 Africa Cup of Nations, Mohamed Aboutreika, then Egypt's best player, stepped up to take Egypt's fifth and final penalty against the Ivory Coast, winning the game and securing the title for his country.

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The point is to show that in all the scenarios listed above, the players above were heralded as heroes. They were all applauded for their decision to stay patient and take the last penalty of the game. Why is Ronaldo criticized for following their line of reasoning?

Theo Filippo wrote:ViVa, there isn't an official list of PK takers you have to give to the officials.

ViVaRooney wrote:But let's stop and think about it for a second. Aren't we used to applauding players for stepping up to take the biggest shot? In basketball, aren't guys like LeBron James, Kobe Bryant and Kevin Durant applauded when they take the winning shot, and criticized when they don't? Why then, is there a double standard for Cristiano Ronaldo?

You might say that there are different standards in football, but are there really? Many of football's biggest players have made similar decisions:

In the 2012 Champions League final, Didier Drogba took the fifth and final penalty against Bayern Munich, winning the title for Chelsea.
In the 2012 Africa Cup of Nations, Drogba took the fifth penalty in the penalty shootout with Zambia. His team would go on to lose, but he effectively made the same decision as Ronaldo to take what would've normally been the winning (and highest pressure) penalty.
Also in the 2012 Africa Cup of Nations, Seydou Keita took the fifth and winning penalty in the quarterfinals penalty shootout against Gabon.
In the 2006 World Cup, Cristiano Ronaldo saved himself for fifth penalty in the shootout against England. In that shootout, Ronaldo's penalty won Portugal the game and took them into the semifinals.
In the 2006 Africa Cup of Nations, Nwankwo Kanu, then Nigeria's best player, took the winning penalty against Tunisia in the quarterfinals.
Also in the 2006 Africa Cup of Nations, Drogba took the 12th penalty and final penalty of the game, winning the quarterfinal against Cameroon.
Finally, once again in the 2006 Africa Cup of Nations, Mohamed Aboutreika, then Egypt's best player, stepped up to take Egypt's fifth and final penalty against the Ivory Coast, winning the game and securing the title for his country.

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The point is to show that in all the scenarios listed above, the players above were heralded as heroes. They were all applauded for their decision to stay patient and take the last penalty of the game. Why is Ronaldo criticized for following their line of reasoning?