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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:25 am

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Well deserved. What APOEL have done in the last few years is amazing, Polish clubs should take note. That is how you build a club.

    They're not very good though. Beating Lyon is nothing special, they're 7th in Ligue 1. Rennes are 4th and we beat them comprehensively this season.
    Not very good?

    Dude, they are an excellent side. They play better than many top european teams. I saw them first hand when Wisla played them. It is hardly just Lyon, it is a lot of top European sides, and for the last few seasons as well.

    APOEL's rise to the top came with even less resources than Celtic has, good FC Porto like investments on players, and faith in their manager. APOEL is a very well run club and I wish Polish sides would study APOEL's rise to the top.
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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:37 am

    They beat rennes in a one off match Run
    We beat Manchester United 3-0. Smile
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:50 am

    Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:They beat rennes in a one off match Run
    We beat Manchester United 3-0. Smile

    In 4 matches Rennes and Udinese couldn't beat us. Rangers also beat Sporting Lisbon and Bursaspor last season, in addition to drawing with Man Utd and Valencia.

    Shiels Bad Lad needs to stop talking about teams he's never watched.
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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:52 am

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
    Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:They beat rennes in a one off match Run
    We beat Manchester United 3-0. Smile

    In 4 matches Rennes and Udinese couldn't beat us. Rangers also beat Sporting Lisbon and Bursaspor last season, in addition to drawing with Man Utd and Valencia.

    Shiels Bad Lad needs to stop talking about teams he's never watched.
    Isn't that what you are doing with APOEL?
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:55 am

    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:
    ConorCelticFC wrote:

    They're not very good though. Beating Lyon is nothing special, they're 7th in Ligue 1. Rennes are 4th and we beat them comprehensively this season.
    Not very good?

    Dude, they are an excellent side. They play better than many top european teams. I saw them first hand when Wisla played them. It is hardly just Lyon, it is a lot of top European sides, and for the last few seasons as well.

    APOEL's rise to the top came with even less resources than Celtic has, good FC Porto like investments on players, and faith in their manager. APOEL is a very well run club and I wish Polish sides would study APOEL's rise to the top.

    They're not at the top though, because next season we both know they probably won't be in the last 16, let alone quarter finals. Don't forget they got the easiest group in the competition(probably easier than our Europa group) and that Lyon are in crisis.

    Porto on the other hand are a fantastically well run club, but Celtic can't take inspiration from their transfer policy due to the fact that their whole team is South American and we couldn't get work permits for young non-internationals. Not to mention the climate and language advantages Porto have over us in signing them.
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:56 am

    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:
    ConorCelticFC wrote:

    In 4 matches Rennes and Udinese couldn't beat us. Rangers also beat Sporting Lisbon and Bursaspor last season, in addition to drawing with Man Utd and Valencia.

    Shiels Bad Lad needs to stop talking about teams he's never watched.
    Isn't that what you are doing with APOEL?

    No.
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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:09 am

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Not very good?

    Dude, they are an excellent side. They play better than many top european teams. I saw them first hand when Wisla played them. It is hardly just Lyon, it is a lot of top European sides, and for the last few seasons as well.

    APOEL's rise to the top came with even less resources than Celtic has, good FC Porto like investments on players, and faith in their manager. APOEL is a very well run club and I wish Polish sides would study APOEL's rise to the top.

    They're not at the top though, because next season we both know they probably won't be in the last 16, let alone quarter finals. Don't forget they got the easiest group in the competition(probably easier than our Europa group) and that Lyon are in crisis.
    You have no idea what you are talking about.
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:11 am

    Lu❣️s Suarez wrote:
    ConorCelticFC wrote:

    They're not at the top though, because next season we both know they probably won't be in the last 16, let alone quarter finals. Don't forget they got the easiest group in the competition(probably easier than our Europa group) and that Lyon are in crisis.
    You have no idea what you are talking about.

    Confused
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:54 am

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
    Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Not very good?

    Dude, they are an excellent side. They play better than many top european teams. I saw them first hand when Wisla played them. It is hardly just Lyon, it is a lot of top European sides, and for the last few seasons as well.

    APOEL's rise to the top came with even less resources than Celtic has, good FC Porto like investments on players, and faith in their manager. APOEL is a very well run club and I wish Polish sides would study APOEL's rise to the top.

    They're not at the top though, because next season we both know they probably won't be in the last 16, let alone quarter finals. Don't forget they got the easiest group in the competition(probably easier than our Europa group) and that Lyon are in crisis.

    Porto on the other hand are a fantastically well run club, but Celtic can't take inspiration from their transfer policy due to the fact that their whole team is South American and we couldn't get work permits for young non-internationals. Not to mention the climate and language advantages Porto have over us in signing them.

    Bet you said the same about Porto before they won the champions league
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    Post by Weather130 Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:08 am

    The rankings are ALMOST set. The only possible changes are 5th/6th Portugal/France and 15th/16th Austria/France. The first possible change does nothing while the second change is huge since it is the difference between having one or two sides in the tournament.

    So in 2013//14 Scotlsnd and Romania are down to one team, Switzerland will have two teams along with Austria or Cyprus depending on what APOEL does in the rest of current competition.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:59 am

    Scotland is going down heavily in the rankings. Laughing

    Poland will overtake them and Czech Republic, putting as only very few places behind having 1 extra team in Europe.

    Only thing I fear is that do to the competitiveness of our league and Wisla, Lech having bad seasons, we might have Korona or Ruch Chorzow in Europe. Weaker Polish teams always flop in Europe. Though maybe Korona might find a little niche themselves since they play like Stoke City on steroids.
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    Post by Grenade Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:11 am

    Are England going to drop down to second?
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    Post by Weather130 Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:41 am

    Grenade wrote:Are England going to drop down to second?

    No, the coefficents are based over the last 5 seasons and the premier league did very well in the first 2 seasons considered.
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    Post by Weather130 Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:45 am

    I cannot see anyway APOEL can comeback against Real Madrid or any outcome to get additional coefficent points. Therefore Switzerland and Austria will now have 2 champions league teams for 2013/14.
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:38 am

    Weather130 wrote:
    Grenade wrote:Are England going to drop down to second?

    No, the coefficents are based over the last 5 seasons and the premier league did very well in the first 2 seasons considered.

    I read an article today that Spain would go to the top...

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1041184/spain-to-take-over-as-europe's-top-ranked-league?cc=5901
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    Post by Theo Filippo Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:39 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    Weather130 wrote:

    No, the coefficents are based over the last 5 seasons and the premier league did very well in the first 2 seasons considered.

    I read an article today that Spain would go to the top...

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/1041184/spain-to-take-over-as-europe's-top-ranked-league?cc=5901
    Hopefully.
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    Post by Weather130 Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:58 pm

    Current coefficent points earned this year...

    1st Spain 16.285
    2nd England 14.250
    3rd Germany 13.583
    4th Netherlands 13.200
    5th Italy 11.214
    6th Portugal 10.833
    7th France 10.500
    8th Belgium 10.100
    9th Russia 9.750
    10th Cyprus 9.125
    11th Greece 7.600
    12th Ukraine 7.583
    13th Austria 7.125
    14th Poland 6.625
    15th Turkey 6.625
    16th Israel 6.000
    17th Switzerland 6.000
    18th Czech Republic 5.250
    19th Romania 4.333
    20th Croatia 3.750
    21st Belarus 3.125
    22nd Denmark 3.100
    23rd Sweden 2.900
    24th Georgia 2.875
    25th Scotland 2.750
    26th Slovakia 2.375
    27th Norway 2.300
    28th Slovenia 2.250
    29th Hungary 2.250
    30th Serbia 2.125
    31st Liechtenstein 2.000
    32nd Kazakhstan 1.625
    33rd Macedonia 1.625
    34th Bulgaria 1.500
    35th Ireland 1.500
    36th Finland 1.500
    44th Wales 0.625
    49th Northern Ireland 0.500
    50th Estonia 0.375
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    Post by Guest Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:56 pm

    I wondered if Wisla would have acquired more coeffiecincy points if they made it into the Champions League Group Stages instead of loosing last minute to APOEL.

    Also nice to see Scotland where they belong. Alongside the likes of Georgia.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:38 am

    The Maestro wrote:
    Billy Davies wrote:Scotland will drop down that list loads over the next few years. Wouldn't surprise me if they are on par with the likes of Moldova and Estonia.

    With Celtic being the only team that has a very slight chance of doing anything significant in Europe, it's only a matter of time.

    But Celtic will never appear in the Champions League any time soon as they are shit now, and the best they can possibly do in the Europa League is getting knocked out in the qualifying round

    We'll see. we have a good chance of getting to the group stages this year. Bookmarked for later


    The Maestro wrote:Says a lot when you only want to focus on how Celtic done in the qualifier and not in the group stage. Suits your agenda quite well. I'll think of you when we're playing in the Champions League next season.

    Bily Davies wrote:
    The Maestro wrote:Says a lot when you only want to focus on how Celtic done in the qualifier and not in the group stage. Suits your agenda quite well. I'll think of you when we're playing in the Champions League 1st Round Qualifiers against some Eastern European minnow before being bravely beaten next season. I will also think of the 2 European Cups your great club won.

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    Billy Davies wrote:Celtic however, were knocked out of the Europa League which they only played in by default.

    APOEL are a tiny club in a small island with a lot less revenue than Scotland (an issue Scots try to use when defending allegations of you being shit), yet APOEL find themselves in the Champions League Quarter Finals. Something Celtic haven't done, or won't do, for many years.

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    Post by ConorCelticFC Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:41 am

    THE CHAMPIONNNNNS!!! THE CHAMPIONNNNNNNS!!! Your shitty provincial club will not hear that sweet, sweet music again for a long, long time Forest.
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:48 am

    What makes this even better is that the team we just beat 4-0 on aggregate, beat the Polish champions 6-1 on aggregate a few weeks ago. I wish Polska was still here. Laughing
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    Post by Kuled Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:14 am

    Guest wrote:Scotland will drop down that list loads over the next few years. Wouldn't surprise me if they are on par with the likes of Moldova and Estonia.

    With Celtic being the only team that has a very slight chance of doing anything significant in Europe, it's only a matter of time.

    But Celtic will never appear in the CL any time soon as they are shit now, and the best they can possibly do in the EL is getting knocked out in the qualifying round
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    Post by AndItsKoren! Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:20 am

    Do Malta even have a league?
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    Post by Theo Filippo Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:28 am

    So 6 of the 7 Spanish sides have qualified for the knockout stages in the Champions league and Europa league.. not bad.

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