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    Can you blame the stadiums capacity even when it's not full?

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    Is it fair to blame the stadiums capacity for the poor Scottish Cup attendance in this instance?

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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:55 am

    2011 Scottish Cup final (their major cup final) attracted an attendance of 49,618.

    Hampden Park capacity - 52063

    Hampden Park took in an attendance of 52,000 for the Champions League final. Let's assume that is what it can be filled at after security measures are taken.

    Is it fair to blame the stadiums capacity for the poor Scottish Cup attendance in this instance?
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:57 am

    Yes, If Auchinleck Talbot's stadium had a capacity of 100k, It's be filled every week.
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    Post by Laurencio Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:57 am

    Can you blame the stadiums capacity even when it's not full? C832edaf-08a5-4a3f-ad6c-b92c6669e623
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:58 am

    He is bitter as fuck. rofl

    Apparently supports Hull, that explains it.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:00 am

    It's a valid question. Can you explain how you came to the conclusion if that's what you truly believe?
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:01 am

    I bet at least 40k were Celtic fans. The other 8k will have been Celtic fans as well but they support their local team Motherwell for the day because it'll be a nice day out.
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    Post by Harrold Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:02 am

    Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:I bet at least 40k were Celtic fans. The other 8k will have been Celtic fans as well but they support their local team Motherwell for the day because it'll be a nice day out.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:04 am

    Less than 2k empty seats isn't a poor attendance.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:04 am

    It is when you compare it to England's 2nd tier final getting 80,000+
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:06 am

    James wrote:It is when you compare it to England's 2nd tier final getting 80,000+

    Celtic and Rangers have more fans than all Championship teams put together.

    If we had access to Wembley, we'd fill it.

    Now fuck off and take your crusade somewhere else, you're a bitter cunt.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:08 am

    Why are you getting so angry? You are trying to tell me how big Celtic is etc... But their cup final didn't eve sell out and that cup final had a lower attendance than a league 2 playoff final.


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    Post by Laurencio Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:08 am

    In all honesty I reckon that Scottish Football is in a bad state, and needs a "revolution" for it to regain it's popularity. They need to sort out the TV rights, sort out the distribution of money, and they need to sort out their publicity.

    You can't blame capacity when it's one OF vs another team, but when it's Rangers vs Celtic, it certainly is a point. They do need to sort out the league and the federation though, because at this rate all that will be left is a handful of fixtures each year. No offence to any Scottish people, but your league needs a revamp.
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:08 am

    The Maestro wrote:
    James wrote:It is when you compare it to England's 2nd tier final getting 80,000+

    Celtic and Rangers have more fans than all Championship teams put together.

    If we had access to Wembley, we'd fill it.

    Now fuck off and take your crusade somewhere else, you're a bitter cunt.

    Absolute horse piss. Leeds United alone probably have a fan base that isn't far off the same size as one of the old firm clubs. Pretty sure Rangers don't have more fans than 23 clubs added together. Even if every cunt in Scotland supported them.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:09 am

    Laurencio wrote:In all honesty I reckon that Scottish Football is in a bad state, and needs a "revolution" for it to regain it's popularity. They need to sort out the TV rights, sort out the distribution of money, and they need to sort out their publicity.

    You can't blame capacity when it's one OF vs another team, but when it's Rangers vs Celtic, it certainly is a point. They do need to sort out the league and the federation though, because at this rate all that will be left is a handful of fixtures each year. No offence to any Scottish people, but your league needs a revamp.

    Celtic have these millions of fans though and still can't sell out a cup final.
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    Post by Laurencio Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:10 am

    James wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:In all honesty I reckon that Scottish Football is in a bad state, and needs a "revolution" for it to regain it's popularity. They need to sort out the TV rights, sort out the distribution of money, and they need to sort out their publicity.

    You can't blame capacity when it's one OF vs another team, but when it's Rangers vs Celtic, it certainly is a point. They do need to sort out the league and the federation though, because at this rate all that will be left is a handful of fixtures each year. No offence to any Scottish people, but your league needs a revamp.

    Celtic have these millions of fans though and still can't sell out a cup final.

    They could very well have sold out their allotted tickets. Allocation has to be taken into consideration.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:12 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    James wrote:

    Celtic have these millions of fans though and still can't sell out a cup final.

    They could very well have sold out their allotted tickets. Allocation has to be taken into consideration.

    Nowadays many people buy the other clubs allocation. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to do that.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:12 am

    Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:
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    Celtic and Rangers have more fans than all Championship teams put together.

    If we had access to Wembley, we'd fill it.

    Now fuck off and take your crusade somewhere else, you're a bitter cunt.

    Absolute horse piss. Leeds United alone probably have a fan base that isn't far off the same size as one of the old firm clubs. Pretty sure Rangers don't have more fans than 23 clubs added together. Even if every cunt in Scotland supported them.

    Oh fuck off.

    Celtic have 10 million fans worldwide, and have the most supporters clubs in North America even ahead of Man United.

    Leeds? Seriously, come on.


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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:13 am

    10 million fans and still can't sell out a Scottish Cup final. Wow.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:14 am

    Hull City. 25k stadium, sold 40k+ tickets for a playoff final.

    Celtic. 10 million supporters, sold less than 50k tickets for a cup final.


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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:15 am

    You need to keep seats for famous people etc who don't have tickets. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:15 am

    James wrote:10 million fans and still can't sell out a Scottish Cup final. Wow.

    We sold our allocation you stupid cunt. Hampdens capacity is 52,000. The attendance of Celtic against Motherwell was 50,000

    You're the most bitter member on this forum.
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    Post by Laurencio Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:16 am

    James wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:

    They could very well have sold out their allotted tickets. Allocation has to be taken into consideration.

    Nowadays many people buy the other clubs allocation. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to do that.

    From what I can tell the following numbers of ticket allocation were involved:

    Celtic - 25k tickets (all sold)
    Motherwell - 16k tickets (all sold)

    Total tickets available: ~49k
    Total Tickets sold: ~49k

    Official numbers indicate that the event was sold out.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:16 am

    James wrote:Hull City. 25k stadium, sold 40k+ tickets for a playoff final.

    Celtic. 10 million supporters, sold less than 60k tickets for a cup final.

    The capacity is less than 60k Crazy 2

    Atleast you're bringing the lulz James you thick cunt. there there rofl rofl rofl


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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:16 am

    250,000 fans applied for a play off ticket against Watford for us. Come at me Celtic.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:17 am

    The Maestro wrote:
    James wrote:It is when you compare it to England's 2nd tier final getting 80,000+

    Celtic and Rangers have more fans than all Championship teams put together.

    If we had access to Wembley, we'd fill it.

    Now fuck off and take your crusade somewhere else, you're a bitter cunt.

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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:19 am

    Yeah. I mistyped the attendance, i've said plenty of times the capacity was just over 52k.

    CL final sold out at 52,000. So should the Scottish Cup.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:20 am

    Laurencio wrote:In all honesty I reckon that Scottish Football is in a bad state, and needs a "revolution" for it to regain it's popularity. They need to sort out the TV rights, sort out the distribution of money, and they need to sort out their publicity.

    You can't blame capacity when it's one OF vs another team, but when it's Rangers vs Celtic, it certainly is a point. They do need to sort out the league and the federation though, because at this rate all that will be left is a handful of fixtures each year. No offence to any Scottish people, but your league needs a revamp.

    Rangers and Celtic i think could be massive football clubs if they could get into a League with cash in it and then they could get investment as they have a massive fan base, but as for Scottish football its getting worse. And i think its bad enough at the moment, but as you have said if something is not sorted out and cash put into Scottish football and or someone with a vision to revamp it from the ground routs up to the top i really fear for the state of Scottish football.
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:21 am

    You still didn't answer my point. Where are these 10 million fans for the cup final? Where are they for your average league attendance of 49k?
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    Post by Laurencio Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:21 am

    James wrote:Yeah. I mistyped the attendance, i've said plenty of times the capacity was just over 52k.

    CL final sold out at 52,000. So should the Scottish Cup.

    But only ~49k tickest were available. How can they sell more tickets than they give out?
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    Post by Guest Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:22 am

    Your numbers didn't actually add up. Are the other 8k tickets for Hampden ticket holders? Also where did you get these official numbers?
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