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    Post by Keanoo Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:35 am

    A suspect remained at large Thursday afternoon on the campus of Virginia Tech after a police officer and at least one other person were shot dead, the university said.

    During a traffic stop on campus, the suspect shot and killed a Virginia Tech police officer and then fled on foot through a nearby parking lot.

    A second person was later found dead in that parking lot, the university said.

    The university said the status of the shooter was unknown and the school remained on lockdown.

    A university alert released after the shooting described the possible shooter as a white male wearing gray sweat pants, a gray hat with a neon green brim, a maroon hoodie and backpack.

    The campus is the site of the deadliest shooting rampage in U.S. history, and the tragedy led to widespread security changes on campus and at other institutions nationwide.

    The April 2007 massacre at Virginia Tech left 33 people dead, including the gunman, Seung-hui Cho, who turned his weapon on himself before authorities could capture him.

    Cho, 23, fired more than 100 shots at his 32 victims, many of whom were crouched in defensive positions at the time they were killed. The university faced widespread criticism and fines in the wake of the shooting. Critics said the university waited two hours after the first bullets were fired -- and two students were killed -- to issue a campuswide alert. Less than half an hour after an alert was finally emailed, 30 others were slain elsewhere on campus by the same gunman.

    Cho had been detained previously by campus police investigating allegations that he was stalking female students, and was held at a nearby private mental health facility. He was deemed to be an "imminent danger to self or others as a result of mental illness" but Cho still ended back on campus.

    Here are posts from the university's Twitter feed, @VTnews:

    “Gun shots reported- Coliseum Parking lot. Stay Inside. Secure doors. Emergency personnel responding. Call 911 for help.” That was quickly followed by “Suspect described as white male, gray sweat pants, gray hat w/neon green brim, maroon hoodie and backpack. On foot towards McComas. Call 911”

    And then several minutes after that: “A police officer has been shot. A potential second victim is reported at the Cage lot. Stay indoors. Secure in place.”

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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:00 am

    Not again. Hope they find the culprit quickly.
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    Post by Jorlung Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:07 am

    Oh man, not again.

    Horrible that it would happen at this school out of all the schools in the US.
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:36 am

    Anymore news?
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:36 am

    Feel bad for Virginia Tech.
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:05 am

    Again? For fuck's sake, this is horrible.
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:23 am

    This is the third shooting/rampage at VT in recent years isn't it?
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:29 am

    Again Virginia Tech eek

    RIP.
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:40 am

    polska. wrote:This is the third shooting/rampage at VT in recent years isn't it?

    Yeah.

    Steve, if you are reading this...are you still at the school or did you graduate already?
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:04 am

    God bless the right to bear arms.
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    Post by Grenade Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:53 am

    Only in Latin America.
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:57 am

    grenade187 wrote:Only in Latin America.
    In Latin America, there are too many cops around campus for this shit to happen.
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    Post by Steadman Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:52 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:
    polska. wrote:This is the third shooting/rampage at VT in recent years isn't it?

    Yeah.

    Steve, if you are reading this...are you still at the school or did you graduate already?
    Steve did not read this.
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    Post by Kelloggg8 Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:15 pm

    Eternal Witcher wrote:God bless the right to bear arms.

    Indeed.
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:32 pm

    Steadman wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    Yeah.

    Steve, if you are reading this...are you still at the school or did you graduate already?
    Steve did not read this.
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    Post by Steadman Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:57 pm

    polska. wrote:
    Steadman wrote:
    Steve did not read this.
    Plane Crash. Sad
    R.I.P Sad
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    Post by Guest Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:10 pm

    I guess their enrollment numbers will be down next year.
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    Post by Scuba Steve Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:20 am

    Fucking bullshit that this keeps on happening.

    August '06 -- Morva shoots and kills a police office and a security guard.

    April '07 -- Cho kills 32 people.

    January '09 -- Yang decapitates a fellow student in front of others in a cafeteria.

    December '11 -- This dude walks up to a random police officer and murders him cold blooded.

    Ahmed, I am not down there anymore -- as I graduated in May. But I still know people down there, so I always get worried when things happen down there. There aren't that many students down there anymore that were there in '07, but everyone knows what happened, and so whenever something suspicious happens, everyone is immediately on edge.

    They said that the shooter was not a student of the school. But while the officer had just pulled someone over, this guy walked up to his vehicle, and fired a couple of shots into the window. He then ran into a near by parking lot and then killed himself before another officer could get close to him.

    The officer himself was just 39 years old, and had five kids. Just so sad.

    And yet some people will use this incident to protest thatthey should be allowed to carry guns around in plain sight. Not sure how after all this that people still see the need for weapons. Just doesn't make sense.
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    Post by Kuled Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:35 am

    ..Why Cry R.I.P.
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    Post by Mustangt125 Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:42 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:God bless the right to bear arms.

    That has almost nothing to do with this, smartass.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:59 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:God bless the right to bear arms.

    That has almost nothing to do with this, smartass.

    It definitely is one of the reasons the US is notorious for shootings.
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    Post by Mustangt125 Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:31 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
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    That has almost nothing to do with this, smartass.

    It definitely is one of the reasons the US is notorious for shootings.

    I am willing to bet that he isn't bearing arms in the fashion that is protected by the Constitution. I highly doubt his gun was registered, I highly doubt he took a right to carry class, I highly doubt he had a license for the gun itself. Fundamentally different from what the Constitution protects.
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    Post by Scuba Steve Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:11 am

    Cho had a legal gun. I'm willing to bet this guy did too.
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    Post by Lux Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:17 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    It definitely is one of the reasons the US is notorious for shootings.

    I am willing to bet that he isn't bearing arms in the fashion that is protected by the Constitution. I highly doubt his gun was registered, I highly doubt he took a right to carry class, I highly doubt he had a license for the gun itself. Fundamentally different from what the Constitution protects.

    Possibly, though the fact that guns are so easy to get even if you aren't getting it legally is the problem.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:58 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    It definitely is one of the reasons the US is notorious for shootings.

    I am willing to bet that he isn't bearing arms in the fashion that is protected by the Constitution. I highly doubt his gun was registered, I highly doubt he took a right to carry class, I highly doubt he had a license for the gun itself. Fundamentally different from what the Constitution protects.

    You're not seeing the point. Many people that have committed shootings have had properly registered guns.

    I think the right to bear arms is an outdated part of the constitution anyways and should be reviewed. If we eliminate guns from the public, you wouldn't need to defend yourself with one because the attacker wouldn't have a gun either. If he got one illegally, that's a whole different issue, but at least it would decrease the chances. There are other efficient ways to stop an attacker other than shooting them or even without killing them.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:12 am

    I thought it was the right to arm bears..

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    Post by Mustangt125 Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:27 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
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    I am willing to bet that he isn't bearing arms in the fashion that is protected by the Constitution. I highly doubt his gun was registered, I highly doubt he took a right to carry class, I highly doubt he had a license for the gun itself. Fundamentally different from what the Constitution protects.

    You're not seeing the point. Many people that have committed shootings have had properly registered guns.

    I think the right to bear arms is an outdated part of the constitution anyways and should be reviewed. If we eliminate guns from the public, you wouldn't need to defend yourself with one because the attacker wouldn't have a gun either. If he got one illegally, that's a whole different issue, but at least it would decrease the chances. There are other efficient ways to stop an attacker other than shooting them or even without killing them.

    I understand what youre saying, but that's never going to happen. If we eliminate guns, what is going to stop the people who will already be criminals from getting it illegally?

    Then if he enters my home, he can rob me, rape my wife, then murder us. The right to defend oneself is one of the most basic.....things.....of mankind.

    The system is not perfect, but I stand by what I wrote above. And to the story, I hate when shit like this happens. There was a dude they thought had a gun on my campus couple years ago, shits scary son.
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    Post by Childish Logic Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:30 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    You're not seeing the point. Many people that have committed shootings have had properly registered guns.

    I think the right to bear arms is an outdated part of the constitution anyways and should be reviewed. If we eliminate guns from the public, you wouldn't need to defend yourself with one because the attacker wouldn't have a gun either. If he got one illegally, that's a whole different issue, but at least it would decrease the chances. There are other efficient ways to stop an attacker other than shooting them or even without killing them.

    I understand what youre saying, but that's never going to happen. If we eliminate guns, what is going to stop the people who will already be criminals from getting it illegally?

    Then if he enters my home, he can rob me, rape my wife, then murder us. The right to defend oneself is one of the most basic.....things.....of mankind.

    The system is not perfect, but I stand by what I wrote above. And to the story, I hate when shit like this happens. There was a dude they thought had a gun on my campus couple years ago, shits scary son.

    You can learn to unarm someone with a gun.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:36 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    You're not seeing the point. Many people that have committed shootings have had properly registered guns.

    I think the right to bear arms is an outdated part of the constitution anyways and should be reviewed. If we eliminate guns from the public, you wouldn't need to defend yourself with one because the attacker wouldn't have a gun either. If he got one illegally, that's a whole different issue, but at least it would decrease the chances. There are other efficient ways to stop an attacker other than shooting them or even without killing them.

    I understand what youre saying, but that's never going to happen. If we eliminate guns, what is going to stop the people who will already be criminals from getting it illegally?

    Then if he enters my home, he can rob me, rape my wife, then murder us. The right to defend oneself is one of the most basic.....things.....of mankind.

    The system is not perfect, but I stand by what I wrote above. And to the story, I hate when shit like this happens. There was a dude they thought had a gun on my campus couple years ago, shits scary son.

    By banning the public purchase and use of guns, it would drastically reduce the chances of obtaining one illegally. Just look at other countries as an example. I'm not assuring you 100% that guns will never be obtained if they were banned, but it would drastically reduce it.

    Like I said, there are other ways to defend yourself than shooting someone. Tasers, pepper spray, bats, non-lethal ammunition, etc.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:37 am

    You're such a cowboy, Mustang.

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