ResurrectionRooney wrote:The only reason that stat in DDG's signature is true is that Tottenham decided to have a load of potshots at him.
Id be testing a GKs so called weakness....
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Id be testing a GKs so called weakness....
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He's made more mistakes than any other premier league goalkeeper this season.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:The only reason that stat in DDG's signature is true is that Tottenham decided to have a load of potshots at him.
You don't approve of him?
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imo the Dzeko and Walcott goals werent exactly mistakes. Just bad positioning which every keeper has done so far in their careers.. I dont even know how to describe the goal at WBA though.
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If bad positioning isn't a mistake, what is it?VivaRonaldo wrote:imo the Dzeko and Walcott goals werent exactly mistakes. Just bad positioning which every keeper has done so far in their careers.. I dont even know how to describe the goal at WBA though.
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VivaRonaldo wrote:imo the Dzeko and Walcott goals werent exactly mistakes. Just bad positioning which every keeper has done so far in their careers.. I dont even know how to describe the goal at WBA though.
Bad positioning is a mistake.
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Jay wrote:If bad positioning isn't a mistake, what is it?VivaRonaldo wrote:imo the Dzeko and Walcott goals werent exactly mistakes. Just bad positioning which every keeper has done so far in their careers.. I dont even know how to describe the goal at WBA though.
I dunno what way to describe it.. but I dont really see it as a mistake so to speak.
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Evra should take most of the blame for Walcott's goal.
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That's a shit comment in a thread about De Gea, you can't say yeah Evra fucked up so De Gea's fuck up doesn't mean as much, both were dreadful for the goal.Steadman wrote:Evra should take most of the blame for Walcott's goal.
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It went through his legs.Steadman wrote:Evra should take most of the blame for Walcott's goal.
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I was just pointing out it wasn't all his fault.kyro7 wrote:That's a shit comment in a thread about De Gea, you can't say yeah Evra fucked up so De Gea's fuck up doesn't mean as much, both were dreadful for the goal.Steadman wrote:Evra should take most of the blame for Walcott's goal.
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Steadman wrote:I was just pointing out it wasn't all his fault.kyro7 wrote:That's a shit comment in a thread about De Gea, you can't say yeah Evra fucked up so De Gea's fuck up doesn't mean as much, both were dreadful for the goal.
Well it was because yes Evra fucked up but that had gone, it doesn't excuse the fact it wasn't the best of shots and that he let it go through his legs.
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It wasn't all of his fault. If a defender fucks up and so does the goalkeeper why should the defender be excused while the goalkeeper gets the blame?SpiritOfShankly wrote:Steadman wrote:
I was just pointing out it wasn't all his fault.
Well it was because yes Evra fucked up but that had gone, it doesn't excuse the fact it wasn't the best of shots and that he let it go through his legs.
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This isn't about the defender.Steadman wrote:It wasn't all of his fault. If a defender fucks up and so does the goalkeeper why should the defender be excused while the goalkeeper gets the blame?SpiritOfShankly wrote:
Well it was because yes Evra fucked up but that had gone, it doesn't excuse the fact it wasn't the best of shots and that he let it go through his legs.
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Steadman wrote:It wasn't all of his fault. If a defender fucks up and so does the goalkeeper why should the defender be excused while the goalkeeper gets the blame?SpiritOfShankly wrote:
Well it was because yes Evra fucked up but that had gone, it doesn't excuse the fact it wasn't the best of shots and that he let it go through his legs.
Neither of them should be 'excused', they should both be criticised for making errors which are independent of each other. The only thing that connects them is that they are both partially responsible for the resultant goal, but that's irrelevant as far as each man's performance is concerned.
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Steadman wrote:It wasn't all of his fault. If a defender fucks up and so does the goalkeeper why should the defender be excused while the goalkeeper gets the blame?SpiritOfShankly wrote:
Well it was because yes Evra fucked up but that had gone, it doesn't excuse the fact it wasn't the best of shots and that he let it go through his legs.
because once the attacker gets past the defender(fucking up regardless) The goalkeeper should not let that ball go through him, at all. What are you saying? the fact Evra made a mistake distracted the goalkeeper from his basic duties?
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My post was directed at SoS point that put all of the blame on Dea Gea.Chris wrote:This isn't about the defender.Steadman wrote:
It wasn't all of his fault. If a defender fucks up and so does the goalkeeper why should the defender be excused while the goalkeeper gets the blame?
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My point was that both of them should be blamed for the goal and not just the goalkeeper.SpiritOfShankly wrote:Steadman wrote:
It wasn't all of his fault. If a defender fucks up and so does the goalkeeper why should the defender be excused while the goalkeeper gets the blame?
because once the attacker gets past the defender(fucking up regardless) The goalkeeper should not let that ball go through him, at all. What are you saying? the fact Evra made a mistake distracted the goalkeeper from his basic duties?
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That was my point, both should take the blame, I only brought this up because some posts made out Dea Gea was at full fault for the goal.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Steadman wrote:
It wasn't all of his fault. If a defender fucks up and so does the goalkeeper why should the defender be excused while the goalkeeper gets the blame?
Neither of them should be 'excused', they should both be criticised for making errors which are independent of each other. The only thing that connects them is that they are both partially responsible for the resultant goal, but that's irrelevant as far as each man's performance is concerned.
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When a player gets through for a shot its then down to the keeper. It went through his fucking legs.Steadman wrote:My point was that both of them should be blamed for the goal and not just the goalkeeper.SpiritOfShankly wrote:
because once the attacker gets past the defender(fucking up regardless) The goalkeeper should not let that ball go through him, at all. What are you saying? the fact Evra made a mistake distracted the goalkeeper from his basic duties?
His part of the job.. he failed at. If it was nicely placed in the corner then fair enough but it was an easy save.
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Steadman wrote:That was my point, both should take the blame, I only brought this up because some posts made out Dea Gea was at full fault for the goal.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Steadman wrote:
It wasn't all of his fault. If a defender fucks up and so does the goalkeeper why should the defender be excused while the goalkeeper gets the blame?
Neither of them should be 'excused', they should both be criticised for making errors which are independent of each other. The only thing that connects them is that they are both partially responsible for the resultant goal, but that's irrelevant as far as each man's performance is concerned.
He was at full fault for the Walcott shot going through his legs, though.
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He was at fault for that part, but Evra was at fault for giving Theo so much space and leaving his defensive duties for that moment.Mal wrote:Steadman wrote:
That was my point, both should take the blame, I only brought this up because some posts made out Dea Gea was at full fault for the goal.
He was at full fault for the Walcott shot going through his legs, though.
I'm not saying he should not be blamed, I'm saying he should not receive all of the blame.
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Steadman wrote:He was at fault for that part, but Evra was at fault for giving Theo so much space and leaving his defensive duties for that moment.Mal wrote:Steadman wrote:
That was my point, both should take the blame, I only brought this up because some posts made out Dea Gea was at full fault for the goal.
He was at full fault for the Walcott shot going through his legs, though.
I'm not saying he should not be blamed, I'm saying he should not receive all of the blame.
We are not blaming him for the whole situation though. Nothing to do with Evra's responsibilities, just the moment it left Walcott's boot.
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Well Evra's mistake that led to a free shot on goal taking place should be looked at as well.Mal wrote:Steadman wrote:
He was at fault for that part, but Evra was at fault for giving Theo so much space and leaving his defensive duties for that moment.
I'm not saying he should not be blamed, I'm saying he should not receive all of the blame.
We are blaming him for the shot though. Nothing to do with Evra's responsibilities, just the moment it left Walcott's boot.
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Not in the David de Gea thread it shouldn't!
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Well I thought people were putting all of the blame on Dea Gea so meh.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Not in the David de Gea thread it shouldn't!
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Steadman wrote:Well I thought people were putting all of the blame on Dea Gea so meh.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Not in the David de Gea thread it shouldn't!
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So Fergie has said he wants more protection for De Gea against Bolton.
Watch everytime he faps about Man United get a penalty up the other end.
Watch everytime he faps about Man United get a penalty up the other end.