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    How Rio doesn't get it about missing dugs tests.

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    Post by CollieBuddz Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:43 pm

    How Rio's furious foul-mouthed rant at me shows he STILL doesn't get point about missing drugs tests

    I returned from *holiday on Friday night, went upstairs and turned on my computer.

    I looked at my Twitter feed. There was a Direct Message from Rio Ferdinand, the kind his million or so followers can’t see.

    “You fat prick,” it began.

    I made a mental note to call Kolo Toure and ask for a tub of his wife’s diet pills.

    Then I read on.

    “U got something to say about me missing a drugs test say it when u see
    me,” Ferdinand had written. “You have had many opportunities but said
    nothing.”

    Many opportunities? That’s about as funny as saying Rio had many
    opportunities to tackle Lionel Messi in the Champions League Final.

    Anyway, the next day, after the England-Switzerland game at Wembley, I said it when I saw him.

    It wasn’t easy. He didn’t stop when he moved through the Mixed Zone where journalists wait behind barriers for players.

    Maybe he was still trying to chase the cross he’d let float over his head for the first Swiss goal.

    Darren Bent had missed a sitter but he was fronting up to the press. So
    were John Terry, Jack Wilshere, Ashley Young and James Milner.

    But Rio was in a sulk, marching through, looking for the exit. I was standing next to it so it was hard for him to avoid me.

    He was up for a row, no question. He strode over, all mean and moody.

    Having ducked a confrontation with Fabio Capello over being deposed as England skipper, he was due a ruck with someone.

    He was angry. In fact, he was outraged. He was even indignant.

    He was appalled, he said, because his name had been brought into a
    Twitter debate about Toure getting a six month ban for snacking on Mrs
    Toure’s slimming tablets.

    Manchester United fans on the site said Toure’s ban was pathetic. He
    would serve some of it in the summer, sunning himself on a beach. They
    were right about that.

    But they also pointed out that Rio got eight months just for missing a
    drugs test in September 2003. They said this was not fair.

    My crime was to point out that, actually, it was totally fair. Missing a test is as bad as testing positive. It has to be.

    I had also pointed out that no-one, except Rio, will ever know whether
    he had something to hide. So we went over all of it again in the Mixed
    Zone. And Rio grew more and more apoplectic.

    He seemed most angry of all because the subject had been aired on Twitter, which was puzzling.

    The facts were all in the public domain anyway. I had written everything I wrote on Twitter many times before in The Mirror.

    But it became clear as he raved that Ferdinand sees discussing those kinds of things on Twitter as off limits.

    Many of his tweets are either plugs for his magazine, restaurant or
    official app on Android. Or inanities that end with the hashtag #oooff
    or #aaviit.

    “You can’t put stuff like that on Twitter,” he said, as a small crowd began to gather round in the Mixed Zone.

    I said I was just joining in a debate. I thought that was the point of Twitter. That’s why I don’t do Direct Messages.

    “You have to rise above it,” he said, scolding. Then, he jabbed his finger into his chest. “That’s what we do,” he said.

    He said that like he was standing on a castle rampart somewhere with his
    fellow officers, looking down at his army of Twitter followers on the
    plain below.

    Then things got more bizarre.

    Rio’s righteous indignation kicked in. Big time.

    He’d had a hair follicle test some time after he missed the test at the
    United training ground in 2003, he said, and it had proved he hadn’t
    been taking drugs.

    “Isn’t that good enough for you?” he said, as if I was some particularly cruel and unreasonable inquisitor.

    Somebody from the FA arrived at this point and tried to soothe him. Rio wasn’t having it.

    “Isn’t that good enough for you?” he said again. Slightly more urgently
    this time. It’s truly astonishing that after all this time, he still
    doesn’t get it. He’s a bright bloke, too, so actually, it’s more than
    astonishing.

    It’s worrying.

    Put together with Toure’s ignorance, it suggests football and
    footballers are still living in a state of wilful denial about drug
    testing.

    So I told Ferdinand it wasn’t good enough for me because it wasn’t good
    enough for the anti-doping authorities that administer drugs tests for
    athletes in this country.

    If you miss a test, it’s no good offering to go a couple of hours later
    because if you have something to hide in your system, you could have
    hidden it by then.

    You could have flushed it out, catheterised yourself to remove suspect urine from your bladder.

    Or drunk so much water that it would render any test invalid.

    And the hair follicle test? Sorry, but that’s an irrelevance, too.

    I double-checked that with Michael Stow, the head of Science and Medicine at UK Anti-Doping, yesterday just to be sure.

    A hair follicle test would have proved that Ferdinand wasn’t taking
    cocaine, for example, and would have ruled out many other recreational
    drugs.

    But it would not have tested for Human Growth Hormone or for the blood
    booster Erythropoietin(EPO). Or for other substances on the Prohibited
    List.

    None of this is anything personal against Ferdinand. It’s not about him.

    It’s about a wider *principle.

    He can call me fat, hippy, Mancunian, whiney, dumb, ugly, spotty or
    whatever he wants. It isn’t going to make the slightest difference.

    At a time when the revered cyclist Lance Armstrong is being investigated
    by a federal grand jury in the US, when much of sport is under siege
    from drugs, it’s about trying to hold back the tide.

    For what it’s worth, my instinct tells me that Ferdinand probably didn’t
    have anything to hide when he missed his test eight years ago.

    But I’ll never know for sure if I’m right.

    I told him that, too.

    “You’re a cock,” he said.

    Then security stepped between us.

    Good informative article.

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    Post by Zzonked Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:48 pm

    He gets it, he's just ignoring the obvious to suit his argument.
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    Post by luke. Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:48 pm

    Rio is a prick.
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:49 pm

    Holt is a prick.

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    Post by crump Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:49 pm

    I'm confused at what i just read. Who was the guy? Lack of info at the start.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:49 pm

    More needless shit from journos
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    Post by luke. Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:51 pm

    How is it the journo's fault? Rio asked for him to say it to his face. Holt was just having a debate on Twitter, what it's for, and giving his views. Rio got butthurt and started throwing insults.

    Sounds like most arguments on here.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:52 pm

    luke. wrote:Rio is a prick.

    +1.
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:53 pm

    Holt posting a private message is quite pathetic though. Just keep it between themselves would have been much better.

    Holt, the same guy, who wanted a better relationship between the media and the players and then does this Laughing Then they wonder why some players or managers don't talk to the media.
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    Post by Guest Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:55 pm

    Sounds like the journo felt silly that rio swore at him so he decided to blare it out to the world to see. Not even suprised by this stupid article, so much needless shit gets printed nowadays.

    I swear some journos just want to wreck footballer's careers due to having some deep inferiority complex.
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    Post by luke. Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:56 pm

    moscowmadeit3 wrote:Holt posting a private message is quite pathetic though. Just keep it between themselves would have been much better.

    Holt, the same guy, who wanted a better relationship between the media and the players and then does this Laughing Then they wonder why some players or managers don't talk to the media.

    I returned from *holiday on Friday night, went upstairs and turned on my computer.

    I looked at my Twitter feed. There was a Direct Message from Rio Ferdinand, the kind his million or so followers can’t see.

    “You fat prick,” it began.
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    Rio posted the message to Holt.
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:59 pm

    luke. wrote:
    moscowmadeit3 wrote:Holt posting a private message is quite pathetic though. Just keep it between themselves would have been much better.

    Holt, the same guy, who wanted a better relationship between the media and the players and then does this Laughing Then they wonder why some players or managers don't talk to the media.

    I returned from *holiday on Friday night, went upstairs and turned on my computer.

    I looked at my Twitter feed. There was a Direct Message from Rio Ferdinand, the kind his million or so followers can’t see.

    “You fat prick,” it began.
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    Rio posted the message to Holt.

    I meant posting the private message public.
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    Post by Cameron. Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:01 pm

    @OllieHoltMirror
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    I thought Rio was lucky when he got eight months. I think there should be a standard two year ban for doping offences.

    That's what started it off.

    Rio was in the wrong, he shouldn't have got mad but there was no need for Holt to a) air it b) then go and write an article about.it.
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    Post by blackskar Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:03 pm

    He's entitled to say what he said though Neutral

    Rio started on him when he should've just left it.

    I fail to see how what Holt said is considered wrong by people in here Confused
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    Post by Laurencio Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:05 pm

    Eh I don't see why this would agitate either party...

    The journalist's explained himself well and logically. TBH this is clearly not about the actual drug test for Rio, probably something to do with the whole hanging of Giggsy causing him to react unusually to any "allegations" by professionals on twitter. Basically how journalists approach twitter. He probably thought the journalist in question was attempting to accuse Rio of taking drugs through a "looser moderated" media such as twitter.
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:06 pm

    Ferdinand. not worthy
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:09 pm

    All childish from both sides really.
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    Post by Laurencio Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:10 pm

    moscowmadeit3 wrote:All childish from both sides really.

    Footballers and rag journalists, what can you do? Razz
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:11 pm

    I like the bit at the end where he says he doesn't think Rio had anything to hide at the time.
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    Post by Grenade Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:12 pm

    Rio is a fucking junkie crackhead.
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    Post by luke. Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:14 pm

    Danny wrote:I like the bit at the end where he says he doesn't think Rio had anything to hide at the time.

    But his point is that missing the drugs test is as bad as testing positive.
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    Post by Sean Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:18 pm

    Danny wrote:Ferdinand. How Rio doesn't get it about missing dugs tests. 914411

    Why do you always do this in any thread about a United player, fucking pointless
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:19 pm

    Sean wrote:
    Danny wrote:Ferdinand. How Rio doesn't get it about missing dugs tests. 914411

    Why do you always do this in any thread about a United player, fucking pointless
    Because I can, and I felt like it? Neutral
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    Post by Sean Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:20 pm

    Danny wrote:
    Sean wrote:
    Danny wrote:Ferdinand. How Rio doesn't get it about missing dugs tests. 914411

    Why do you always do this in any thread about a United player, fucking pointless
    Because I can, and I felt like it? Neutral

    I dont understand it though, you might as well not post.
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    Post by luke. Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:22 pm

    It's like -

    Ferdinand says United are shit.

    Danny: Ferdinand not worthy

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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:22 pm

    Sean wrote:
    Danny wrote:
    Sean wrote:
    Danny wrote:Ferdinand. How Rio doesn't get it about missing dugs tests. 914411

    Why do you always do this in any thread about a United player, fucking pointless
    Because I can, and I felt like it? Neutral

    I dont understand it though, you might as well not post.
    So should the guy who called Rio a junkie beachhead or some shite like that. Go have a go at him because you think it's "pointless".
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:23 pm

    luke. wrote:It's like -

    Ferdinand says United are shit.

    Danny: Ferdinand not worthy

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    Yeah, alright then Luke. Fucking idiot.
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    Post by luke. Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:23 pm

    Danny wrote:
    luke. wrote:It's like -

    Ferdinand says United are shit.

    Danny: Ferdinand not worthy

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    Yeah, alright then Luke. Fucking idiot.

    It was a joke, chill dude Laughing
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    Post by Sean Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:24 pm

    Danny wrote:
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    Danny wrote:
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    Danny wrote:Ferdinand. How Rio doesn't get it about missing dugs tests. 914411

    Why do you always do this in any thread about a United player, fucking pointless
    Because I can, and I felt like it? Neutral

    I dont understand it though, you might as well not post.
    So should the guy who called Rio a junkie beachhead or some shite like that. Go have a go at him because you think it's "pointless".

    He doesnt do the same thing in every thread though
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    Post by Danny Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:25 pm

    Sean wrote:
    Danny wrote:
    Sean wrote:
    Danny wrote:
    Sean wrote:

    Why do you always do this in any thread about a United player, fucking pointless
    Because I can, and I felt like it? Neutral

    I dont understand it though, you might as well not post.
    So should the guy who called Rio a junkie beachhead or some shite like that. Go have a go at him because you think it's "pointless".

    He doesnt do the same thing in every thread though
    Good for fucking him then.

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