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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Thu May 03, 2012 2:44 am

    Yeah im confuses by that as well
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    Post by Guest Thu May 03, 2012 2:47 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:This may be a very complicated answer but I don't understand how so many claim a legitimate claim to the throne?

    How do Stannus and Renley claim it? Who is there dad? how does the dragon queen think its hers too/ Technically there should only be one person to claim the throne....Baratheons are stewards not kings (Like Boromir's dad in LOTR as I understand it)

    Robb Stark and Snow have no claim.

    Robert Baratheon won the throne by defeating the Targareyan king. At that point, either him or Ned Stark could have claimed the throne, but the latter was happy with dominion over the north, like stewardship. Stannis and Renley are the brothers of Robert, while Joffrey isn't actually of Robert's blood so they feel their claim is the strongest. The dragon chick is the grandchild of the Targareyan king so wants to reclaim what is hers. Robb doesn't want the throne.


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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Thu May 03, 2012 2:48 am

    Ahhhhhh
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    Post by Mustangt125 Thu May 03, 2012 2:53 am

    Ah great explanation, did you write the books or something?

    So Joffrey is Cercei's kid but not from Robert? He has the potential to be a great character as an antagonistic King
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Thu May 03, 2012 2:54 am

    He's a prick.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 03, 2012 2:58 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:Ah great explanation, did you write the books or something?

    So Joffrey is Cercei's kid but not from Robert? He has the potential to be a great character as an antagonistic King

    You'll find out why he's not from Robert in season 1, so I won't spoil it all for you.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 03, 2012 3:00 am

    I want so many people to kill him. Right now I'd like it to be one of Jon, Robb, Arya and Jamie. The last one is just because I like Jamie, no homo.
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    Post by Jord Thu May 03, 2012 3:00 am

    All you need to know Mustangt is that the TRUE heir to the Seven Kingdoms and to the Iron Throne is Daenerys Targaryen. Everyone else has no legal right, especially Jeoffrey since he took the throne from Ned Stark who at the time had true legal claim.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 03, 2012 3:03 am

    Jord wrote:All you need to know Mustangt is that the TRUE heir to the Seven Kingdoms and to the Iron Throne is Daenerys Targaryen. Everyone else has no legal right, especially Jeoffrey since he took the throne from Ned Stark who at the time had true legal claim.

    And for Mustang's benefit, Robert was justified in taking the throne because the Targaryen known as the Mad King, was a massive prick who among other things, slaughtered Ned Stark's brother and father. Also another Targaryen killed his sister I think, so the Starks will have some massive beef with Daenerys even though she's not guilty. But what matters is whether the common people will flock to her banner.
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    Post by Lux Thu May 03, 2012 3:05 am

    Jord wrote:All you need to know Mustangt is that the TRUE heir to the Seven Kingdoms and to the Iron Throne is Daenerys Targaryen. Everyone else has no legal right, especially Jeoffrey since he took the throne from Ned Stark who at the time had true legal claim.

    Lies.

    The Targaryen don't particularly have a bigger claim than anyone else.

    True, the kingdom was taken from them....but they aren't even originally from the Seven Kingdoms. What was taken from them, they took from others before.

    The part about the Iron Throne itself is perhaps true though....from what I have learnt it is the Targaryen's who built King's landing.
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    Post by Mustangt125 Thu May 03, 2012 3:08 am

    Joffrey has so much potential as a character though. It's easy to hate him but that's what great.

    So in season 1 when Ned Stark got to KL why was he short toward Jamie when Jamie killed the Mad King, who killed Ned's family?

    Edit: also, it's impossible for somebody from America to pick out different English accents but I like that I can at least tell there are some different ones. Are there even some Irish/Welsh/Scot accents in there at all?
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    Post by Guest Thu May 03, 2012 3:11 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:Joffrey has so much potential as a character though. It's easy to hate him but that's what great.

    So in season 1 when Ned Stark got to KL why was he short toward Jamie when Jamie killed the Mad King, who killed Ned's family?

    The Lannisters are only it for themselves, so Ned obviously distrusts them because they are so close to the king. Plus Jaime was a member of the king's guard, and killed that king he swore to protect. And here he is again, a member of the king's guard.
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    Post by Jord Thu May 03, 2012 4:14 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:Joffrey has so much potential as a character though. It's easy to hate him but that's what great.

    So in season 1 when Ned Stark got to KL why was he short toward Jamie when Jamie killed the Mad King, who killed Ned's family?

    Edit: also, it's impossible for somebody from America to pick out different English accents but I like that I can at least tell there are some different ones. Are there even some Irish/Welsh/Scot accents in there at all?
    Most of the accents on the show are actually Northern English accents. .
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    Post by Kuled Thu May 03, 2012 4:40 am

    I don't know why I haven't started this yet, everyone loves it but I'm just too lazy Laughing
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    Post by Lux Thu May 03, 2012 4:48 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:Edit: also, it's impossible for somebody from America to pick out different English accents but I like that I can at least tell there are some different ones. Are there even some Irish/Welsh/Scot accents in there at all?

    Well the thing is that as it's for an American audience so that's how it is with most British actors. If you watched an English program you'd probably notice the difference a lot easier.

    Catelyn Stark is Northern Irish, that's definitely the easiest one to notice.
    Petyr Baelish is Irish but he puts on an accent to cover it.

    I won't search through but I'd assume there are Scots in there too...dunno about Welsh. If I thought about it whilst watching I'd definitely be able to tell. There is lots of English accents that's for sure.

    Also as Jord said..quite a lot of the actors are from Northern England.
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    Post by El_indian Thu May 03, 2012 8:31 am

    Mustang has already had so many spoilers from beginning in season 2...knowing Ned dies, knowing about the Dragons & Joffrey.

    Season 1 was amazing but you already know what happens..
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    Post by dena Thu May 03, 2012 12:14 pm

    Robert's grandmother was Targarayen which is why the lords who supported him did so, outside the Targarayen's themselves he had the best claim.
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    Post by Mustangt125 Thu May 03, 2012 1:25 pm

    Yeah I know el but oh well im still gonna go on with season 1.

    So far from what i have seen from season 1 it blows 2 out of the water
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    Post by dena Fri May 04, 2012 10:44 am

    Reading a clash of kings... when did
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Fri May 04, 2012 11:15 am

    Its definitely in the show. I remember it.
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    Post by Lux Fri May 04, 2012 8:29 pm

    Yup it was in there the first time we see her. Some old dude puts the poison in....she doesn't die then he drinks it and dies.
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    Post by Guest Fri May 04, 2012 11:27 pm

    I like the Hound, hope he kills his brother or something.
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    Post by dena Sat May 05, 2012 1:40 am

    N wrote:Its definitely in the show. I remember it.

    Lux wrote:Yup it was in there the first time we see her. Some old dude puts the poison in....she doesn't die then he drinks it and dies.

    Damn I really don't remember that, ah well.
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    Post by Guest Sat May 05, 2012 1:56 am

    The only person in this show that I hate more than Joffrey is that absolute fucking cunt who drove his spear into Boromir's knee and stopped the great contest.
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    Post by Jorlung Mon May 07, 2012 2:07 am

    Finally caught up to live TV. Didn't want to post in here until I did in fear of seeing spoilers.

    That thing Joffery did with the strippers was fucked.
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    Post by Guest Mon May 07, 2012 2:12 am

    Strippers. rofl
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    Post by Jorlung Mon May 07, 2012 2:16 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:Strippers. Game of Thrones Thread - Page 24 70955
    Courtesan. Prostitutes.

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    Post by dena Mon May 07, 2012 12:09 pm

    Goddammit Theon.
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    Post by dena Mon May 07, 2012 12:13 pm

    Damn Theon really bout that salt n' iron life now eh.

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