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    Football's hate shame as top clubs snub drive on homophobia

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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:47 pm

    Football's new hate shame as top clubs snub drive on homophobia

    Football's new hate shame as top clubs snub drive on homophobia

    Ministers furious over alleged failure by Premier League big guns to tackle sport's last taboo

    England's biggest and most lucrative football clubs came under fire from the Government and equality campaigners this weekend for dragging their feet over plans to stamp out homophobia in the professional game. Ministers are privately furious at the “mealy-mouthed excuses” of Premier League teams when asked if their grounds could be used as the backdrop for the launch of a high-profile campaign against homophobia in sport.

    As the annual international Football v Homophobia campaign begins this weekend, campaigners also voiced their dismay that only 16 of the 160 clubs in seven English divisions responded positively to a call to arms to tackle sport's last taboo. The campaign wrote to every professional English club asking them to get involved. The letters suggested a number of ways in which clubs, players and coaching staff could raise the profile of the issue – from mentioning it on Twitter to promotions in match-day programmes or PA announcements. Only six Premier League clubs agreed actively to help.

    "Football's in the gutter at the moment," said a senior government source. "And they've got real problems with homophobia in dressing rooms and on the terraces. It needs top clubs to speak out repeatedly and as publicly as possible."

    David Cameron will host a No 10 summit on racism in football on Wednesday, after a string of cases of alleged abuse aimed at black players by rival teams and fans. However, tough questions will also be asked about why there are no openly gay players in the entire English league at the moment.

    No UK professional player has come out except Justin Fashanu, who committed suicide in 1998. Even now, Anton Hysen, who plays for the Swedish team Utsiktens BK, remains the only out gay professional footballer in the world.

    The publicist Max Clifford recently said that among footballers he had known over the past 15 to 20 years, there were "probably half a dozen I know are either gay or bisexual". Lou Englefield, of Pride Sports, said: "There is still a reticence to talk about this."

    Facing claims that it has so far failed to get a grip on the issue, the FA will meet tomorrow and is expected to launch a new strategy to engage with the lesbian and gay community.

    Earlier this month Lynne Featherstone, a Home Office minister, announced that all 20 Premier Leauge teams had signed the Government's Sports Charter to tackle homophobia and transphobia in sport, on and off the pitch. But attempts to organise a photo opportunity at a major club's ground foundered.

    It is understood that six Premier League sides were contacted asking for help to promote the charter. Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur said they were not given enough time, while QPR said they agreed to help in future. Fulham, Chelsea and Aston Villa claim they were not contacted, though Home Office insiders insist all six teams were asked to take part.

    Megan Worthing-Davies, director of Football v Homophobia, said: "We heard back from many clubs who said, 'We've signed up to the charter so we're not going to be involved with Football v Homophobia'."

    Andy Wasley, from Stonewall, said: "Actions speak louder than words, and it's one thing to sign a charter, it's quite another then to actually do the hard stuff like training officials and stewards to make sure they challenge homophobia when they see it."

    The 16 teams signed up to Football v Homophobia so far are: Arsenal, Aston Villa, Fulham, Liverpool, Newcastle Utd, Norwich City, Brighton & Hove Albion, Derby County, Ipswich Town, Millwall, Huddersfield Town, MK Dons, Wycombe Wanderers, Exeter City, Port Vale and Hyde FC.

    A conspiracy of silence: 'No one wants to speak out about this'

    Amal Fashanu is the niece of Justin Fashanu who killed himself in 1998. He was Britain's first openly gay professional footballer

    "The reluctance of Premier League clubs to take the homophobia issue seriously is a shame because we are trying to take steps forward. It seems as if some people want us to go backwards.

    "If a player decided to come out now, I don't think there would be enough support available. That's why we are trying to create a climate so that people will feel safe.

    "The really, really sad thing is when you have people who are actually not gay but fear that they might be categorised as such if they speak up. They don't want to stand up against discrimination. Why? Them saying, 'Listen, let's kick homophobia out of football', that's not going to make them gay.

    "It's a crazy mentality, and that's why Joey Barton, who contributed to my recent BBC3 documentary, Britain's Gay Footballers, is getting the reception that he is. He is being treated like a hero. Why? Because no one else is going to speak out. Football seems to be stuck in the dark ages.

    "In the documentary, Max Cliffford tells me that he's been approached by half a dozen gay Premier League footballers. He has advised them to not come out. If you have this mentality, it's going to be very hard for a footballer to feel comfortable about coming out.

    "We need some role models in this country if we want more people to come out, but there are none. The only openly gay footballers are like the Swede Anton Hysen, or someone like my uncle who has passed away. It is still a harsh reality for the next person coming out knowing that my uncle committed suicide.

    "It would be great if each individual football club could play its part in this campaign."


    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/footballs-new-hate-shame-as-top-clubs-snub-drive-on-homophobia-7181062.html
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    Post by Van Wolfswinkel Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:14 pm

    Glad we are on there. Well done to the other teams which have clap
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    Post by El_indian Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:31 pm

    homosexuals are gay
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:48 pm

    No surprise to see Manchester United turn their nose up at this sort of thing.

    Vile club.
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    Post by Paulinho Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:07 pm

    Of course those Arsenal faggots would sign up Football's hate shame as top clubs snub drive on homophobia 279869
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    Post by SophisticatedBeggar Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:16 pm

    With the exception of those sixteen teams, every other team deserves an 8 game ban shifty

    It should be seen as a workplace just like any other, and not giving a job to someone based on their sexual orientation should be illegal.
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    Post by Childish Logic Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:08 pm

    Man utd not there

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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:24 pm

    No suprise Brighton are already involved Laughing
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    Post by Kuled Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:42 pm

    phaggots
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:52 pm

    SophisticatedBeggar wrote:It should be seen as a workplace just like any other, and not giving a job to someone based on their sexual orientation should be illegal.

    Er...it is.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:52 pm

    Why should they get involved?

    It's a football club for fuck sake. All their efforts should be going into football. Glad Forest haven't Signed up. It ensures that everybody at the club will be fully behind our relegation battle.

    We don't have a good record with gays anyway. Our gay suicide rate is 100%
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    Post by SophisticatedBeggar Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:21 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    SophisticatedBeggar wrote:It should be seen as a workplace just like any other, and not giving a job to someone based on their sexual orientation should be illegal.

    Er...it is.

    I know it is, but most football teams wouldn't get a player who is openly gay.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:23 pm

    SophisticatedBeggar wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    Er...it is.

    I know it is, but most football teams wouldn't get a player who is openly gay.
    How do you know?
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    Post by Lux Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:29 pm

    I don't think of homophobia in the same way as racism. I'd definitely say there's a lot more obligation for clubs to promote anti racism.

    Radford wrote:No suprise Brighton are already involved Laughing

    That's what I thought Laughing

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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:29 pm

    If a gay footballer actually has the balls to come out then maybe this sort of thing will be taken seriously. When Liverpool and Chelsea players and fans racially abuse opponents en masse, that gets taken seriously, John Terry is facing a court base over it, Suarez received an 8 match ban, Liverpool and Chelsea fans have suffered widespread criticism. Manchester United actually took a stand against it, rather than simply paying lip service, by getting a man banned from attending football matches for years.

    Glen Damon wrote:No surprise to see Manchester United turn their nose up at this sort of thing.

    Vile club.

    NZG wrote:Man utd not there

    Vile club

    Do you guys still call a homophobe who dresses up in blackface "God"?
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    Post by easley91 Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:01 pm

    Thought Tottenham would be on there, not surprised crawley aren't. Depending on when the wrote to the chief executives and what not, Crawley may have been busy getting ready for the Stoke game.
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    Post by Andy Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:02 pm

    Isn't John O'Shea gay?
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    Post by El_indian Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:04 pm

    yeah
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:07 pm

    Why are Liverpool okay with racism but not okay with homophobia?
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:18 pm

    Andy wrote:Isn't John O'Shea gay?
    I don't think so, he's married.
    GOATarenka wrote:Why are Liverpool okay with racism but not okay with homophobia?
    Their stance on both issues is the same. Do bullshit PR against racism and homophobia, but worship people who abuse opponents in a racist or homophobic way.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:37 pm

    easley91 wrote:Thought Tottenham would be on there, not surprised crawley aren't. Depending on when the wrote to the chief executives and what not, Crawley may have been busy getting ready for the Stoke game.

    Why would anyone in Tottenham like gays?
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:59 pm

    Fonseca wrote:
    easley91 wrote:Thought Tottenham would be on there, not surprised crawley aren't. Depending on when the wrote to the chief executives and what not, Crawley may have been busy getting ready for the Stoke game.

    Why would anyone in Tottenham like gays?

    Yeah I though that Laughing They're supposed to hate Arsenal
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:10 am

    Wrong thread
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    Post by easley91 Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:19 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    easley91 wrote:Thought Tottenham would be on there, not surprised crawley aren't. Depending on when the wrote to the chief executives and what not, Crawley may have been busy getting ready for the Stoke game.

    Why would anyone in Tottenham like gays?
    Maybe because it is a family club, and Daniel Levy should've done what's right for them and added them to the campaign. The club does a lot for the area, that usually goes unnoticed by many.

    I suppose if it was against pedophilia, Arsenal wouldn't be on the list. Football's hate shame as top clubs snub drive on homophobia 279869
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    Post by Laurencio Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:39 am

    Too much politics. Let's concentrate on one issue at once? I'm all for gay rights and all that jazz, but lets be sensible about it. Why jump into another hugely controversial subject when we haven't really finished the whole respect campaign yet?
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:26 am

    easley91 wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    Why would anyone in Tottenham like gays?
    Maybe because it is a family club, and Daniel Levy should've done what's right for them and added them to the campaign. The club does a lot for the area, that usually goes unnoticed by many.

    I suppose if it was against pedophilia, Arsenal wouldn't be on the list. Football's hate shame as top clubs snub drive on homophobia 279869

    Those lies

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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:57 am

    You'll never drive this from the terraces.
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:23 am

    GOATarenka wrote:Why are Liverpool okay with racism but not okay with homophobia?

    Get a life for fuck sake
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    Post by Van Wolfswinkel Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:16 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    easley91 wrote:Thought Tottenham would be on there, not surprised crawley aren't. Depending on when the wrote to the chief executives and what not, Crawley may have been busy getting ready for the Stoke game.

    Why would anyone in Tottenham like gays?

    Heard a strong rumour back in like 2005 about Jenas silent
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    Post by Guest Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:17 am

    Van Wolfswinkel wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    Why would anyone in Tottenham like gays?

    Heard a strong rumour back in like 2005 about Jenas silent
    Did i hear you say "DARREN GET OFF THAT MAN!" shifty

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