Juventus V Notts County

He didn't. So that is an irrelevant turn you have made in the conversation. I am right, so fuck off.

He's a cunt as he was responsible for the loss of an innocent persons life. How can you even defend that RR?
You could say it was an accident but he still holds responsibility for driving like a twat.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Dan wrote:Lee Hughes should not be allowed on a football pitch. Seeing him celebrate like he does is sickening.

Because he fled the scene of an accident? I know someone died, but he didn't intend to kill them.

One does not need to intend to kill somebody to commit murder.

Of course, I am speaking from the laws of another country but I think that if England has only one degree of a murder charge, you would be hard pressed to find many people who think that doesn't need reworking.

As an example, in Canada:

1st Degree Murder --> Intent, premeditated
2nd Degree Murder --> Usually a crime of passion. Heat of the moment type of crime
Manslaughter --> Usually based around an accident or a death that results from other criminal activity
Vehicular Manslaughter --> Could apply to the case discussed here
Negligence causing death --> Not doing something that you should do and the result is a death

I have no idea how it works in England. Is it very different? In my mind, all of those are murder in one way or another

This match just goes to show how ungrateful Arsenal are as a football club. Juventus stole the idea of Notts Countys kit so invited them to open their new stadium, whereas Forest actually provided Arsenal with a kit, yet there's no acknowledgement from them and we don't get invited to open the Emirates Stadium. Without Forest, Arsenal would still be shirtless.

notts county is more famous then nottingham forest

Who are Nottingham Forest?

RR jumping at the chance to be controversial again.

Eternal Witcher jumping at the chance to be off topic again.

RafaVDV wrote:Who are Nottingham Forest?

they need to get back into the top division again.

The stadium is beautiful, Italian football needed that

Be quiet James.

Eternal Witcher wrote:Be quiet James.

Take your own advice.





@Dena - Will they fill it? Or get anywhere near filling it?

James wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:Be quiet James.

Take your own advice.

Perish the thought.

dena wrote:The stadium is beautiful, Italian football needed that

They didn't need that shitty result though

@James it's only 41k so I'd be surprised if they didn't

@Dave they played a B/youth side (league starts tomorrow) so I doubt it's a big deal

i think celebratory atmosphere is more important then match result. it was intriguing to see juventus ultra clapping for notts county players and all juventus fans celebrated for that bald guy who score notts goal

i watch openin ceremony also it was really good

dena wrote:

@Dave they played a B/youth side (league starts tomorrow) so I doubt it's a big deal

Vidal, Pepe, Elia, Del Piero, Buffon etc


B team for sure.

dena wrote:@James it's only 41k so I'd be surprised if they didn't

@Dave they played a B/youth side (league starts tomorrow) so I doubt it's a big deal

It was a mixture of the first XI and the B team/subs. Was quite a strong side tbh.

Oh i.read differently, still its preseason

RR I can make you hate Lee Hughes, he converted to Islam while he was banged up.

grenade187 wrote:He's a cunt as he was responsible for the loss of an innocent persons life. How can you even defend that RR?
You could say it was an accident but he still holds responsibility for driving like a twat.

I judge people on their actions, not the results of their actions. All Hughes did was drive dangerously and flee the scene, the fact someone died is independent of his options. I don't agree with driving dangerously, or fleeing the scene, and it's wrong to do that, but if we're going to judge him, judge him for his actions, not the result of them. He is responsible for driving like a twat, but that's as far as it goes in my view. The death was just a terrible accident.

Vexxed wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Because he fled the scene of an accident? I know someone died, but he didn't intend to kill them.

One does not need to intend to kill somebody to commit murder.

Of course, I am speaking from the laws of another country but I think that if England has only one degree of a murder charge, you would be hard pressed to find many people who think that doesn't need reworking.

As an example, in Canada:

1st Degree Murder --> Intent, premeditated
2nd Degree Murder --> Usually a crime of passion. Heat of the moment type of crime
Manslaughter --> Usually based around an accident or a death that results from other criminal activity
Vehicular Manslaughter --> Could apply to the case discussed here
Negligence causing death --> Not doing something that you should do and the result is a death

I have no idea how it works in England. Is it very different? In my mind, all of those are murder in one way or another

3 of those aren't murder you tit. They are all homicide.

Uncle John from Jamaica wrote:RR I can make you hate Lee Hughes, he converted to Islam while he was banged up.

That just means he's a moron, I'm not disputing that,

All Hughes did was drive dangerously and flee the scene

All he did ? This is not Liverpool where that's an everyday thing.

grenade187 wrote:

All Hughes did was drive dangerously and flee the scene

All he did ? This is not Liverpool where that's an everyday thing.

The point I'm making is that the death isn't relevant to his behaviour.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

grenade187 wrote:

All he did ? This is not Liverpool where that's an everyday thing.

The point I'm making is that the death isn't relevant to his behaviour.

The death was cause by his behaviour, therefore it is completely relevent.