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    Post by Scouser_Dave Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:34 pm

    Arsene Wenger last night admitted Arsenal "can no longer be called a big club" if they sell Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri.

    "Imagine the worst situation - we lose Fabregas and Nasri - you cannot convince people you are ambitious after that," he said.

    "And even if you lose Nasri, to find the same quality player, you have to spend again the same amount of money. Because you cannot say, you lose the player and you do not replace him.

    "I believe for us it is important the message we give out. For example, you talk about Fabregas leaving, Nasri leaving.

    "If you give that message out, you cannot pretend you are a big club, because a big club first of all holds onto its big players and gives a message out to all the other big clubs that they just cannot come in and take away from you.

    "We worked very hard with these players for years to develop them, and now it's a time for us to keep them together."

    Wenger, speaking at the start of Arsenal's Far East pre-season tour, said Nasri will "definitely" stay despite interest from Manchester City, Manchester United and Inter Milan.

    The Gunners will risk Nasri running down his contract, which has just a year to run, but Wenger is also confident the player will sign a new deal.

    He also insisted they have not given up hope of keeping Fabregas out of the clutches of Barcelona and branded the Europan champions' president Sandro Rosell "disrespectful" over their pursuit of the Arsenal captain.

    Fabregas, who has missed the trip to the Far East because of a hamstring injury, resumed full training yesterday and Wenger admitted he only wants him to stay if he is fully committed to Arsenal.

    Wenger was also upset that Rosell claimed Fabregas was worth less this summer than 12 months ago.

    Arsenal have already knocked back two offers of £27m and £34m. Barcelona will have to go closer to £40m to get their man.

    "That is disrespectful to Cesc," said Wenger. "I rate Cesc so highly. For me, he is top, top world class, certainly in the top five midfield players in the world.

    "For us, it's not a question of money. It is a question of Cesc wanting to be with us. And I think he is torn because he loves the club deeply.

    "We will fight until the last second to keep him.

    "I think Cesc has always been torn between his love for Arsenal, that I feel is really genuine, and, as well - and what you can understand -the desire to play for the biggest team in the world. I think both exist in his head.

    "I am confident, because I hope he will see that there will be no greater achievement for him in his life than to lead this team to success and that it will not be the right period for him to leave."

    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Arsenal-no-longer-claim-to-be-big-club-if-sell-Cesc-Fabregas-and-Samir-Nasri-admits-Arsene-Wenger-article764500.html

    Wenger speaking sense for once Laughing
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:42 pm

    Last summer: "Cesc is definitely staying."
    This summer: "We will fight to the last second to keep Cesc."

    He's gone.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:50 pm

    Fantastic news not worthy I do not understand how Liverpool can then call themselves a big club if they are selling players such as Alonso and Torres then replacing them with Adam and Carroll Rolling Eyes Where is the ambition in that?
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    Post by Childish Logic Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:52 pm

    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Fantastic news not worthy I do not understand how Liverpool can then call themselves a big club if they are selling players such as Alonso and Torres then replacing them with Adam and Carroll Rolling Eyes Where is the ambition in that?

    Laughing Seems like you are angry about this. rofl


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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:53 pm

    I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:55 pm

    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'Wenger - Arsenal can no longer claim to be a big club IF... 70955' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    This is Wenger's own words. It has nothing to do with Liverpool.
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    Post by Childish Logic Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:57 pm

    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:00 pm

    NZG wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl
    Why would i be angry? I don't want Arsenal to be a big club.


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    Post by Childish Logic Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:00 pm

    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl
    Why would i be angry? I don't want Arsenal to be a big club.


    /fluffy

    Best comeback ever

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    Post by crump Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:17 pm

    Laughing
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    Post by Mal Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:19 pm

    I wouldn't mind Cesc leaving if we got Mata in. Mata on the left and Nasri through the middle. wank 2
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    Post by crump Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:21 pm

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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:48 pm

    NZG wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl

    IF they sell Cesc and Nasri..
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    Post by Jord Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:07 pm

    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'Wenger - Arsenal can no longer claim to be a big club IF... 70955' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah Wenger - Arsenal can no longer claim to be a big club IF... 70955 Wenger - Arsenal can no longer claim to be a big club IF... 70955
    Why would i be angry? I don't want Arsenal to be a big club.


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    Post by Childish Logic Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:09 pm

    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl

    IF they sell Cesc and Nasri..

    When*
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    NZG wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl
    Obviously didn't read the OP.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:40 pm

    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl

    IF they sell Cesc and Nasri..

    When*

    Marveaux rejected you... big club right there
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    Post by Childish Logic Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:48 pm

    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl

    IF they sell Cesc and Nasri..

    When*

    Marveaux rejected you... big club right there

    Failed his medical.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:49 pm

    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl

    IF they sell Cesc and Nasri..

    When*

    Marveaux rejected you... big club right there

    Failed his medical.

    No... he rejected you
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    Post by Jord Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:51 pm

    But this is about Arsenal.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:52 pm

    Jord wrote:But this is about Arsenal.
    Wenger - Arsenal can no longer claim to be a big club IF... WhiteWash
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    Post by Childish Logic Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:53 pm

    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    IF they sell Cesc and Nasri..

    When*

    Marveaux rejected you... big club right there

    Failed his medical.

    No... he rejected you

    no.... He failed his medical.....
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    Post by Jord Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:53 pm

    Arsenal
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:56 pm

    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:

    When*

    Marveaux rejected you... big club right there

    Failed his medical.

    No... he rejected you

    no.... He failed his medical.....

    Reports emerged on Friday that Marveaux had failed his medical at Anfield, but he confirmed this was not the case.

    facepalm
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    Post by Childish Logic Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:57 pm

    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:

    Marveaux rejected you... big club right there

    Failed his medical.

    No... he rejected you

    no.... He failed his medical.....

    Reports emerged on Friday that Marveaux had failed his medical at Anfield, but he confirmed this was not the case.

    facepalm

    Of course he would deny it. You are smarter than this.... What sort of player would say "i failed the medical". No club would sign him after that.
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    Post by Jord Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:57 pm

    Link us up Fonsecsaa
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:58 pm

    http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6994869,00.html

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    Post by Childish Logic Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:59 pm

    Fonseca wrote:http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6994869,00.html

    Zing Zing

    Again. Bullshit. He failed his medical and then tried to lie about it.
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    Post by Jord Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:00 am

    But what does this have to do with Arsenal?
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:00 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    NZG wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I always see the Liverpool fans use the 'rofl' or other similar smileys when they do not have an adequate answer scratch You would think they would be better off just not posting

    Nothing adequate to post? Laughing I'm just laughing at the fact you are so angry that even the arsenal manager doesn't think they are a big club anymore Laughing



    oh yeah rofl rofl

    IF they sell Cesc and Nasri..

    When*

    Marveaux rejected you... big club right there

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