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Theo Filippo wrote:Got a job working in a private security company  Start in September.

Congratulations. Watch out for fakes and people using their older siblings', best advice is only to accept passports and driving licences, threaten to take them away if you're suspicious.

I'd suck them off too if that was what I had to do for 24k

Also RR I remember you saying that Labour would appoint some "well-meaning dickhead" as their leader, does Jeremy Corbyn come under that to you?

Theo Filippo wrote: I'd suck them off too if that was what I had to do for 24k

I'll preface this by saying that it is great that you've got a graduate job, especially so soon after graduation, but it's probably worth continuing to look for jobs to see if you can do any better.  I went with the first graduate job I was offered and couldn't really be arsed looking after that, there's an element of regret.

Theo Filippo wrote:Also RR I remember you saying that Labour would appoint some "well-meaning dickhead" as their leader, does Jeremy Corbyn come under that to you?

I forgot I'd even said that, but yeah, he'd be the archetypical candidate.  It makes me cringe when I see Labour people dismissing Tony Blair's views when he comments on the leadership.  They should be bowing at his feet and begging his advice on how to win, nobody else alive has done as much for Labour.  Then again what does he know about winning elections?

Maybe another severe beating in 2020 with the 70 year old man they want to make Prime Minister for the next 5 years will cause Labour to grow a brain.

I'll have a look around, I've only been applying for jobs I've actually wanted though but the plan is to work there for two years and evaluate from there. 

People have been urging some of the candidates to drop out to give Corbyn less of a chance of winning  I haven't heard anything about the Lib Dems any idea what they're doing?

Edit: Some guy called Fallon got elected 10 days ago. Looks like a right parasite.

I've no idea what they're doing.  Fallon getting the job was probably a bit like this



There was a great article on the whole Corbyn situation and how social media is killing the left.  Well worth a read if you're interested in it.

http://www.newstatesman.com/helen-lewis/2015/07/echo-chamber-social-media-luring-left-cosy-delusion-and-dangerous-insularity

The Labour party is a disgrace for even considering this. Putting their own lofty unrealistic principles above what will actually get them elected is the furthest possible thing from what their principles say they should do because it guarantees a Tory government who will fuck over the working class. It's egomania. As one of the parties in a tow party system they have a responsibility to the working class and they're completely abdicating it. Cunts.

In order to get elected so they can serve the interests of the working class, they should adopt policies that go against the interests of the working class. Flawless logic. Positive change for the working class has never come from bourgeois politicians, it comes from mass movements from down below. The Labour Party can get fucked.

Ra's al Ghul wrote:In order to get elected so they can serve the interests of the working class, they should adopt policies that go against the interests of the working class. Flawless logic. Positive change for the working class has never come from bourgeois politicians, it comes from mass movements from down below. The Labour Party can get fucked.

Shut the fuck up you moron, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. It's terrifying how much having a decent vocabulary and knowing words like bourgeois leads people to believe they're qualified to speak about these things. You're completely ignorant of history and the unbelievable amount of positive change that bourgeois politicians have brought to everyone.

Labour can't do shit if they don't win elections and they won't win elections with a 70 year old man who has never done anything in his life as their leader. That's a fact; pretending otherwise based on a completely distorted view of history is idiotic.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Ra's al Ghul wrote:In order to get elected so they can serve the interests of the working class, they should adopt policies that go against the interests of the working class. Flawless logic. Positive change for the working class has never come from bourgeois politicians, it comes from mass movements from down below. The Labour Party can get fucked.

Shut the fuck up you moron, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.  It's terrifying how much having a decent vocabulary and knowing words like bourgeois leads people to believe they're qualified to speak about these things.  You're completely ignorant of history and the unbelievable amount of positive change that bourgeois politicians have brought to everyone.  

Labour can't do shit if they don't win elections and they won't win elections with a 70 year old man who has never done anything in his life as their leader.  That's a fact; pretending otherwise based on a completely distorted view of history is idiotic.

Keep spouting that liberal bullshit, buddy. Bourgeois politicians only ever act in the interests of the working class if provoked by the working class, history unequivocally attests to that. It's quite shocking that someone who claims to have a degree in politics can have such a facile grasp of it. Examining history through the lens of cause-and-effect without examining the social relations operating beneath the state level is something I would expect of someone in high-school.

The Labour Party only nominally represents the working class. They've been as much a part of the neo-liberal project since the 80's as the conservatives have been. I couldn't care less what they do.

Ra's al Ghul wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Shut the fuck up you moron, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.  It's terrifying how much having a decent vocabulary and knowing words like bourgeois leads people to believe they're qualified to speak about these things.  You're completely ignorant of history and the unbelievable amount of positive change that bourgeois politicians have brought to everyone.  

Labour can't do shit if they don't win elections and they won't win elections with a 70 year old man who has never done anything in his life as their leader.  That's a fact; pretending otherwise based on a completely distorted view of history is idiotic.

Keep spouting that liberal bullshit, buddy. Bourgeois politicians only ever act in the interests of the working class if provoked by the working class, history unequivocally attests to that. It's quite shocking that someone who claims to have a degree in politics can have such a facile grasp of it. Examining history through the lens of cause-and-effect without examining the social relations operating beneath the state level is something I would expect of someone in high-school.

The Labour Party only nominally represents the working class. They've been as much a part of the neo-liberal project since the 80's as the conservatives have been. I couldn't care less what they do.

They have something provoking them you fucking mong, it's called an electorate. The fact I have accreditations proving I know what I'm talking about suggests it's probably you who believes in a load of crap.

Your whole argument keeps boiling down to "I have a degree."

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Ra's al Ghul wrote:

Keep spouting that liberal bullshit, buddy. Bourgeois politicians only ever act in the interests of the working class if provoked by the working class, history unequivocally attests to that. It's quite shocking that someone who claims to have a degree in politics can have such a facile grasp of it. Examining history through the lens of cause-and-effect without examining the social relations operating beneath the state level is something I would expect of someone in high-school.

The Labour Party only nominally represents the working class. They've been as much a part of the neo-liberal project since the 80's as the conservatives have been. I couldn't care less what they do.

They have something provoking them you fucking mong, it's called an electorate.  The fact I have accreditations proving I know what I'm talking about suggests it's probably you who believes in a load of crap.

I'm talking about provocation through genuinely meaningful political action, e.g. strikes, riots and protests. Participation in bourgeois elections does nothing on its own. And please don't make appeals to your degree, it's frankly embarrassing. It's not hard to cite scholars and intellectuals whose academic qualifications dwarf yours. Either use actual evidence or go fuck yourself.

Fine, you want some examples of what bourgeois politicians have done for us?


Let's start with these

-Human rights
--Freedom of speech
--Freedom of religion
--Freedom of assembly
--The right to own property
-Rule of Law
-Abolition of slavery
-Free education for all citizens
-The defeat of Hitler
-Democracy
-Minimum wage
-Living wage
-Protection from crime
-Protection from fire
-Pensions
-Infrastructure
-Enormous reductions in violence and violent death
-Huge extensions in life expectancy

Plenty of these have been compelled only by the electorate.

I'm not sure which of these is the most egregious. The suggestion that some of these were gifted by bourgeois politicians as opposed to won through the struggles of labour unions is vomit-inducing. Minimum wage, living wage and pensions are the most offensive but there are also a couple that are flat out not in the interests of the working class. The defeat of Hitler (beyond the fact that it was carried out by working class soldiers) came as part of a period in which there were two wars instigated by bourgeois imperialists which saw an unparalleled amount of working class people die. The most amusing, of course, was the right to own property which I think shows how out of touch you are with working class interests.

I got a two hour job interview in a week and i'm nervous af. What sort of interviews are 2 hours long...

Ra's al Ghul wrote:I'm not sure which of these is the most egregious. The suggestion that some of these were gifted by bourgeois politicians as opposed to won through the struggles of labour unions is vomit-inducing. Minimum wage, living wage and pensions are the most offensive but there are also a couple that are flat out not in the interests of the working class. The defeat of Hitler (beyond the fact that it was carried out by working class soldiers) came as part of a period in which there were two wars instigated by bourgeois imperialists which saw an unparalleled amount of working class people die. The most amusing, of course, was the right to own property which I think shows how out of touch you are with working class interests.

I'm very in touch with working class interests, I'm from a working class background. Are you telling me that nothing listed has been granted to people by politicians? Was there some huge struggle in the late 90s for human rights or the minimum wage that I missed?

Childish Logic wrote:I got a two hour job interview in a week and i'm nervous af. What sort of interviews are 2 hours long...

Interviews for good jobs are longer because they can just employ any cunt. I've had three interviews for shit jobs and two for good jobs, first three were half an hour max, second two were all day.

did that Suarez goal actually cross the line?

Zouma reached in and kicked it slightly backwards onto the crossbar, so I'm almost certain it was over the line.

Good luck on the new job, Theo. What does the work entail?

the reason why i haven't been active a lot is because my son just was born

vel wrote:the reason why i haven't been active a lot is because my son just was born

Who's the dad?

A black guy.

vel wrote:the reason why i haven't been active a lot is because my son just was born

I don't recall your ever saying that you were married.

i'm joking. big brother, work and swimming has swallowed my life whole

Keyser Söze wrote:Good luck on the new job, Theo. What does the work entail?

Thank you my friend. 

I start training first, I'm pretty sure my role will be predominately part of a "team"providing background research on companies and mainly other people that the company/operation has a vested interest in. 

This Wenger-Mourinho 'hoodoo' that the media have kept banging on about is irritating. Happy to beat those cunts though, don't think we've got the squad to really win the league but hopefully we can do a Liverpool (No injuries, get every decision in our favour, one player smacking in 30 goals) minus the bottler slipping and pip the league/second.

My subreddit is thriving

you're welcome

Theo Filippo wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:Good luck on the new job, Theo. What does the work entail?

Thank you my friend. 

I start training first, I'm pretty sure my role will be predominately part of a "team"providing background research on companies and mainly other people that the company/operation has a vested interest in. 

This Wenger-Mourinho 'hoodoo' that the media have kept banging on about is irritating. Happy to beat those cunts though, don't think we've got the squad to really win the league but hopefully we can do a Liverpool (No injuries, get every decision in our favour, one player smacking in 30 goals) minus the bottler slipping and pip the league/second.

 Background research?

SBSP wrote:you're welcome

thanks SBSP