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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 2:49 am

    If a player had a shot and a fan ran on the pitch and it hit the fan and deflected in, would it count?
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    Post by Harrold Wed May 23, 2012 2:50 am

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    Post by Kuled Wed May 23, 2012 2:57 am

    Nope, imagine if a fan stops the opposition from scoring a crucial goal Laughing
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    Post by Theo Filippo Wed May 23, 2012 2:58 am

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    Post by Ra's al Ghul Wed May 23, 2012 3:01 am

    If a shot is goal bound and a fan runs onto the pitch and saves it before it crosses the line, what happens?

    EDIT: Damn it, Kuled just asked the same question. Dry Smile
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 3:02 am

    Adz wrote:If a player had a shot and a fan ran on the pitch and it hit the fan and deflected in, would it count?

    No, because they're not an active player on the park. Only the ref/linesman is. If it hit the linesman and went in (pretty impossible) then yes, it would be a goal.
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    Post by Harrold Wed May 23, 2012 3:04 am

    If it hit the linesman it would be out of play, surely? Weird Questions About Football - Page 2 279869
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 23, 2012 3:07 am

    BladeGunner wrote:If a shot is goal bound and a fan runs onto the pitch and saves it before it crosses the line, what happens?

    EDIT: Damn it, Kuled just asked the same question. Dry Smile

    Drop ball, I think we had this discussion a few months ago.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 3:08 am

    Harrold wrote:If it hit the linesman it would be out of play, surely? Weird Questions About Football - Page 2 279869

    Not necessarily, the linesman stands on the line. Therefore the ball would still be in play.

    Happened to Rangers this season, the ball hit the linesman i.e. had he not been there, it would have went out. So the Rangers player picked it up and he got booked for a handball i.e. he was going to take a throw-in.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 3:12 am

    A bit random but anyway Laughing :

    The keeper comes up for the corner in the 90th minute but the opponent striker wins the ball and then shoots from his own half into the open goal, the keeper tries to run back to save it but he realise he's not going to make it so he takes off his boot, throws it and it lands on the line and stops the ball.

    Is that cheating or would the game just carry on?
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 3:15 am

    Splashy wrote:A bit random but anyway Laughing :

    The keeper comes up for the corner in the 90th minute but the opponent striker wins the ball and then shoots from his own half into the open goal, the keeper tries to run back to save it but he realise he's not going to make it so he takes off his boot, throws it and it lands on the line and stops the ball.

    Is that cheating or would the game just carry on?

    Unsportsmanlike conduct? i.e. yellow card & a bounce up?
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Wed May 23, 2012 3:16 am

    You're not allowed to take off your boot, Hernandez was penalised for it against Bilbao.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 23, 2012 3:16 am

    Splashy wrote:A bit random but anyway Laughing :

    The keeper comes up for the corner in the 90th minute but the opponent striker wins the ball and then shoots from his own half into the open goal, the keeper tries to run back to save it but he realise he's not going to make it so he takes off his boot, throws it and it lands on the line and stops the ball.

    Is that cheating or would the game just carry on?

    Handball, penalty to the attacking team and red card for the goalkeeper.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 4:31 am

    if a player was to climb on another teammates shoulders, and then they crossed the ball in high so only he could head it, and he scored. Would that be allowed?
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 23, 2012 4:36 am

    Ed wrote:if a player was to climb on another teammates shoulders, and then they crossed the ball in high so only he could head it, and he scored. Would that be allowed?

    No, Dangerous Play.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 5:25 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Ed wrote:if a player was to climb on another teammates shoulders, and then they crossed the ball in high so only he could head it, and he scored. Would that be allowed?

    No, Dangerous Play.

    You can't commit a dangerous play against your own teammate.
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    Post by Mr Durmmond Wed May 23, 2012 5:28 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    No, Dangerous Play.

    You can't commit a dangerous play against your own teammate.

    Tell that you Lee Bowyer.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 5:46 am

    If a player took a shot lets say from outside the box and was flying into the top corner, but the defender flicked his boot off at it somehow and the boot deflected the shot.. what would happen?
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    Post by The Bat-Man Wed May 23, 2012 5:54 am

    Chris wrote:If a player took a shot lets say from outside the box and was flying into the top corner, but the defender flicked his boot off at it somehow and the boot deflected the shot.. what would happen?

    Too much Shaolin Soccer.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 23, 2012 6:04 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
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    No, Dangerous Play.

    You can't commit a dangerous play against your own teammate.

    [citation needed]

    Chris wrote:If a player took a shot lets say from outside the box and was flying into the top corner, but the defender flicked his boot off at it somehow and the boot deflected the shot.. what would happen?

    Drop ball.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Wed May 23, 2012 6:05 am

    What would happen if a ninja threw his sword at the ball and the ball was cut into two equally sized halves and one half went in to the goal and the other half went behind? Would that count as half a goal and would play resume with corner?
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 6:55 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    You can't commit a dangerous play against your own teammate.

    [citation needed]

    Chris wrote:If a player took a shot lets say from outside the box and was flying into the top corner, but the defender flicked his boot off at it somehow and the boot deflected the shot.. what would happen?

    Drop ball.

    http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf

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    And I don't think that's a drop ball in Chris's scenario. If it was intentional, it would be considered like a handball. But if it's not intentional, then there is no offense and play resumes.

    menalawyerguy wrote:What would happen if a ninja threw his sword at the ball and the ball was cut into two equally sized halves and one half went in to the goal and the other half went behind? Would that count as half a goal and would play resume with corner?

    It would be a drop ball from where the ninja hit the ball or where the ball was when referee stops play (if he stops play before the ninja comes in contact with the ball).
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    Post by George Wed May 23, 2012 6:57 am

    menalawyerguy wrote:What would happen if a ninja threw his sword at the ball and the ball was cut into two equally sized halves and one half went in to the goal and the other half went behind? Would that count as half a goal and would play resume with corner?

    Corner.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 23, 2012 7:06 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
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    [citation needed]



    Drop ball.

    http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf

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    Alright, so you're telling me rugby style line-outs for crosses are permissible?

    And I don't think that's a drop ball in Chris's scenario. If it was intentional, it would be considered like a handball. But if it's not intentional, then there is no offense and play resumes.

    I believe the boot becomes a foreign object once it leaves his foot.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 7:24 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/afdeveloping/refereeing/law_12_fouls_misconduct_en_47379.pdf

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    Alright, so you're telling me rugby style line-outs for crosses are permissible?

    And I don't think that's a drop ball in Chris's scenario. If it was intentional, it would be considered like a handball. But if it's not intentional, then there is no offense and play resumes.

    I believe the boot becomes a foreign object once it leaves his foot.

    There is no rule stating a player can't lift his teammate in the air. For a foul to occur (specifically a dangerous play), a player must commit that foul against an opponent. So technically you are allowed to do it. Now, if there is an opponent around the referee could probably make a case for dangerous play if say the player has his elbows/hips at the same level as the opponent's face.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 23, 2012 7:40 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
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    Alright, so you're telling me rugby style line-outs for crosses are permissible?



    I believe the boot becomes a foreign object once it leaves his foot.

    There is no rule stating a player can't lift his teammate in the air. For a foul to occur (specifically a dangerous play), a player must commit that foul against an opponent. So technically you are allowed to do it. Now, if there is an opponent around the referee could probably make a case for dangerous play if say the player has his elbows/hips at the same level as the opponent's face.

    I hope you don't actually referee matches, this isn't the first time you've made some weird calls.

    Question number 8
    It's the quarter-final of Euro 2008. The Netherlands are a goal down with just seconds remaining of added-on time. The referee awards a corner kick to the Dutch.

    The Netherlands keeper leaves his goal and races into the opposition penalty area, but the corner is hit too high and is likely to swing past the far post out of play, well out of everyone's reach.

    Two Dutch players hoist the keeper high in the air, rugby-style. They do not block, impede or interfere with any opponents as they hold the keeper steady in the air like a towering statue.

    The ball flies towards him and he meets it perfectly to head it into the back of the net.

    What would you do in this situation?

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    This is a very good question and with the regular exploits of Edwin van der Sar into his opponent's penalty area when playing for Manchester United this could well happen at Euro 2008.

    In this type of unusual incident in the heat of a game and in the dying seconds, it could catch a match official out and result in a wrong and very debatable decision.

    It is NO GOAL. The two players involved in lifting the goalkeeper, as well as Van der Sar, will be cautioned for UNSPORTING BEHAVIOUR. The game would re-start with an indirect free-kick to the defending team from where the offence took place.

    If, however, the offence took place in the goal area, then the kick could be taken from anywhere in the six-yard box.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/euro2008/2008/06/you_are_the_ref_9.html
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 7:57 am

    That's still not a dangerous play, idiot. They would get booked for unsporting behavior.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 23, 2012 8:00 am

    The point is, dick head, if I'd been the referee I would have given a yellow card to the participating players and awarded an indirect free kick to the defending side, the elements of the offences may have been different, but the punishments would have been correct. Had you been the referee you would have incorrectly allowed the goal and by the time the next corner came along you would have both teams forming giant human pyramids to fight each other to win a header from 18 ft in the air.
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    Post by Mr Durmmond Wed May 23, 2012 8:02 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    There is no rule stating a player can't lift his teammate in the air.

    This is what he takes issue with.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 8:04 am

    There is nothing in the laws of the game that says you must give a yellow card and indirect freekick for something like that. USB (Unsporting Behavior) is one of those open to interpretations things. It's like when some refs disallow a goal if a player goes down on his knees and heads the ball across the goal line.

    The situation described rarely happens anyways.

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