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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:05 pm

    Depressing, tragic novels are painful in the tedious sense to read, unless the characters and plot are so well imagined that impending doom just adds to the layers of intricacy and emotionality. Take Lord of the Rings and its ill-fated chief protagonist, Gollum as a demonstration.
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    Post by Sean Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:08 pm

    Yea, but I think me and you have a fundamental difference of opinion on what makes a good novel. You seem to be more plot orientated, how the action progress, while I'm more character orientated. I guess you see the book as how the character impacts on the plot while I see it as how the plot impacts on the character.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:24 pm

    I can concur.
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:27 pm

    Is anyone interested in how the novel is written? The faculty of language used?
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    Post by Childish Logic Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:30 pm

    I used to like reading but i've just stopped now. Don't know why Mad

    Roloman4 wrote:Is anyone interested in how the novel is written? The faculty of language used?

    no hehe
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:32 pm

    Technique? It massively affects my confidence in the novel and being an aspiring writer I tend look out for bits I can pick up on to improve my own.
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:54 pm

    Who here likes poetry?
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:56 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:Who here likes poetry?

    I like it.
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    Post by Sean Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:58 pm

    Yea Rolo, technique is important to me I guess, my favourite style I guess would be first person narration and a sort of stream of conciousness, and when I write my own stuff that's the style I use mostly.
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:58 pm

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    Roloman4 wrote:Who here likes poetry?

    I like it.

    Ehh, non ho domandato di te, parlai italiano?
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:58 pm

    I don't really like first person narrator, I prefer an omniscient third person narrator.
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    Post by Sean Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:00 pm

    I just like to get a good grasp on the character, how he's feeling, what he's thinking. Keeps me more connected I guess.
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:05 pm

    Sean wrote:I just like to get a good grasp on the character, how he's feeling, what he's thinking. Keeps me more connected I guess.

    I recently read Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.

    The main character was an ass but first person narration makes it easier for you to sympathize with him...
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:07 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
    Sean wrote:I just like to get a good grasp on the character, how he's feeling, what he's thinking. Keeps me more connected I guess.

    I recently read Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.

    The main character was an ass but first person narration makes it easier for you to sympathize with him...

    Why bother when Apocalypse Now is superior? Book Thread - Page 5 784961
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:09 pm

    BladeGunner wrote:
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    I recently read Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.

    The main character was an ass but first person narration makes it easier for you to sympathize with him...

    Why bother when Apocalypse Now is superior? Book Thread - Page 5 784961

    No.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:10 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
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    Why bother when Apocalypse Now is superior? Book Thread - Page 5 784961

    No.

    Have you seen Apocalypse Now?
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:12 pm

    BladeGunner wrote:
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    No.

    Have you seen Apocalypse Now?

    No, to be honest, but... don't compare a book to a movie, however similar in idea they may be.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:15 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
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    Have you seen Apocalypse Now?

    No, to be honest, but... don't compare a book to a movie, however similar in idea they may be.

    You undermine films, my friend. I hear they're quite different anyway. They're not even set in the same war-zone.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:16 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
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    I like it.

    Ehh, non ho domandato di te, parlai italiano?

    Si. Sono di Torino pero io vivo in America.
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:17 pm

    BladeGunner wrote:
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    No, to be honest, but... don't compare a book to a movie, however similar in idea they may be.

    You undermine films, my friend. I hear they're quite different anyway. They're not even set in the same war-zone.

    Well, obviously.

    One's set in Vietnam while the other is set in the Belgian Congo at the end of the 19th century.

    I didn't say films were bad, but just that you can't compare a book to a movie, they are different.
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    Post by Zzonked Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:18 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
    Sean wrote:I just like to get a good grasp on the character, how he's feeling, what he's thinking. Keeps me more connected I guess.

    I recently read Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad.

    The main character was an ass but first person narration makes it easier for you to sympathize with him...

    Read it this year. What a Face
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:19 pm

    ilJuventino wrote:
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    Ehh, non ho domandato di te, parlai italiano?

    Si. Sono di Torino pero io vivo in America.

    Ahh, molto bene, vivai in America fai molto tempo?
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:20 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
    BladeGunner wrote:

    You undermine films, my friend. I hear they're quite different anyway. They're not even set in the same war-zone.

    Well, obviously.

    One's set in Vietnam while the other is set in the Belgian Congo at the end of the 19th century.

    I didn't say films were bad, but just that you can't compare a book to a movie, they are different.

    Yes, I know. Thanks for the explanation... I understand they are different, it was just an innocuous joke in favour of my preferred medium. You can still compare them though.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:26 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
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    Si. Sono di Torino pero io vivo in America.

    Ahh, molto bene, vivai in America fai molto tempo?

    Dodici anni... eek
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:27 pm

    ilJuventino wrote:
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    Ahh, molto bene, vivai in America fai molto tempo?

    Dodici anni... eek

    Tanto?

    Ahh, eras bambino quando andaste d'Italia a America?


    Sorry, my Italian is poop.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:37 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
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    Dodici anni... eek

    Tanto?

    Ahh, eras bambino quando andaste d'Italia a America?


    Sorry, my Italian is poop.

    Si, e il tuo italiano è buono.
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:44 pm

    ilJuventino wrote:
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    Tanto?

    Ahh, eras bambino quando andaste d'Italia a America?


    Sorry, my Italian is poop.

    Si, e il tuo italiano è buono.

    ¿Pero aínda falas italiano? Moi ben dos teus pais, conservala tua língua.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:49 pm

    Do you speak French as well, in addition to Spanish, Rolo?
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    Post by Roloman4 Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:58 pm

    ilJuventino wrote:Do you speak French as well, in addition to Spanish, Rolo?

    I would say so, in addition to Portuguese, Galician, and a tad of Italian.
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:59 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
    ilJuventino wrote:Do you speak French as well, in addition to Spanish, Rolo?

    I would say so, in addition to Portuguese, Galician, and a tad of Italian.

    Hah, nice.

    That previous post seemed like a blend of a few of those. Razz

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