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    Post by Steadman Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:54 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    thechampion wrote:Even as a Man United fan, I can admit that Reina is easily the best keeper in the league.
    If someone doesn't agree with that surely they're a spastic.
    I'd still have Cech over Reina.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:57 am

    Mr Leiva wrote:Without Tom Hicks and George Gillet, he wouldn't even be thinking about moving in the first place.
    Why not? Would Benitez have made less stupid decisions in the transfer market with different owners?
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    Post by Mustangt125 Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:36 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Mr Leiva wrote:Without Tom Hicks and George Gillet, he wouldn't even be thinking about moving in the first place.
    Why not? Would Benitez have made less stupid decisions in the transfer market with different owners?

    He would have been backed appropriately and we wouldn't have missed out on players like Ronaldo, Silva, Villa, Aguero, and Alves.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:44 am

    Mustangt125 wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Why not? Would Benitez have made less stupid decisions in the transfer market with different owners?

    He would have been backed appropriately and we wouldn't have missed out on players like Ronaldo, Silva, Villa, Aguero, and Alves.
    You wouldn't have missed out on Ronaldo? Maybe if the Glazers took over and decided to merge United and Liverpool.

    Silva, Villa, Aguero and Alves all went to clubs who have much higher revenues than Liverpool, even with your current owners you would never be able to sign them. Let's not forget that even in his last season, Benitez spent £30-40m on Aquilani and Glen Johnson, so you can't claim he wasn't backed appropriately for a club of Liverpool's size.

    Who do you envisage being in charge of Liverpool in this period, rather than Thomas Hicks and George Gillett?
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:48 am

    Not even close to 40 million, portsmouth owed us money from the crouch deal, same with roma from the riise deal. And there were appearance landmarks in Aquilani's contract, so we never paid near the reported 20 million for him.
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    Post by Mustangt125 Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:36 pm

    Youre out of your depth RR. The point is BEFORE those players went to Barca/City we were after them and split hairs over a few mill and lost out on them.
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    Post by El_indian Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:26 pm

    Reina recalls blazing Carragher row
    October 11, 2011

    Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina has revealed the details of an explosive row he had with Anfield stalwart Jamie Carragher, which spilled over into the dressing room after beginning on the pitch.

    Reina and Carragher, both mainstays of the Reds rearguard since the Spanish shot-stopper joined the club in 2005, clashed in an unnamed game because of a disagreement about passing options.

    "The veins in our necks were bulging, our faces were red with anger and neither of us were going to back down," Reina said in his autobiography Pepe, which is being serialised in the Daily Mirror.

    "The row between me and Jamie Carragher started during the game - I can't even remember who we were playing against - carried on in the dressing room and didn't come to an end until we sent each other text messages apologising.

    "He went crazy at me, screaming at me, and I was screaming back at him. We were like that for fully five minutes shouting at one another and getting our point across. When we got back into the dressing room the row started again and it was even rougher than it had been on the pitch.

    "The other players were just totally silent, watching us giving each other hell. It wasn't even over anything major. It was just a difference of opinion over whether I should knock the ball long or [if] he should give me an angle for a short pass.

    "I ended up kicking the ball out wide to where I thought Carra should be, but he wasn't there and it went out of play. He shouted at me: 'You really think you're Franz Beckenbauer and you're always trying to play short passes when you should just empty it.'

    "I responded: 'If I know one thing it's that you definitely aren't Beckenbauer, but just give me a bit of support when I've got the ball so we can try and play instead of just kicking it down the pitch.'"

    Meanwhile, Reina has lifted the lid on an occasion when he was at loggerheads with former Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez over alcohol consumption. "The biggest argument I had with Rafa was about a beer," Reina said. "We had lost 2-1 to Besiktas and not played too well. I decided to have a beer. I don't see a problem with that because for me it is healthier to do that than it is to have a glass of Coca-Cola or a drink like that.

    "Suddenly, the bartender turned up and said: 'The club doctor, medical staff and manager have made it clear to me they do not want you to have a beer.' I still don't know why this was the case but whatever the reason, I was fuming. I grabbed my bags and stormed off to my room without even having dinner. That is how upset I was.

    "For me, Rafa was in the wrong. It suggests the manager does not trust you to look after yourself in the right way. He saw it differently and, if he has a small weakness as a manager, it is that he did not have a massive career as a player before he moved into management."

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/967967/liverpool-goalkeeper-pepe-reina-recalls-jamie-carragher-row?cc=3436
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    Post by El_indian Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:27 pm

    where can I read this autobiography?
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    Post by Kuled Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:36 pm

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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:46 pm

    El_indian wrote:
    Reina recalls blazing Carragher row
    October 11, 2011

    Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina has revealed the details of an explosive row he had with Anfield stalwart Jamie Carragher, which spilled over into the dressing room after beginning on the pitch.

    Reina and Carragher, both mainstays of the Reds rearguard since the Spanish shot-stopper joined the club in 2005, clashed in an unnamed game because of a disagreement about passing options.

    "The veins in our necks were bulging, our faces were red with anger and neither of us were going to back down," Reina said in his autobiography Pepe, which is being serialised in the Daily Mirror.

    "The row between me and Jamie Carragher started during the game - I can't even remember who we were playing against - carried on in the dressing room and didn't come to an end until we sent each other text messages apologising.

    "He went crazy at me, screaming at me, and I was screaming back at him. We were like that for fully five minutes shouting at one another and getting our point across. When we got back into the dressing room the row started again and it was even rougher than it had been on the pitch.

    "The other players were just totally silent, watching us giving each other hell. It wasn't even over anything major. It was just a difference of opinion over whether I should knock the ball long or [if] he should give me an angle for a short pass.

    "I ended up kicking the ball out wide to where I thought Carra should be, but he wasn't there and it went out of play. He shouted at me: 'You really think you're Franz Beckenbauer and you're always trying to play short passes when you should just empty it.'

    "I responded: 'If I know one thing it's that you definitely aren't Beckenbauer, but just give me a bit of support when I've got the ball so we can try and play instead of just kicking it down the pitch.'"

    Meanwhile, Reina has lifted the lid on an occasion when he was at loggerheads with former Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez over alcohol consumption. "The biggest argument I had with Rafa was about a beer," Reina said. "We had lost 2-1 to Besiktas and not played too well. I decided to have a beer. I don't see a problem with that because for me it is healthier to do that than it is to have a glass of Coca-Cola or a drink like that.

    "Suddenly, the bartender turned up and said: 'The club doctor, medical staff and manager have made it clear to me they do not want you to have a beer.' I still don't know why this was the case but whatever the reason, I was fuming. I grabbed my bags and stormed off to my room without even having dinner. That is how upset I was.

    "For me, Rafa was in the wrong. It suggests the manager does not trust you to look after yourself in the right way. He saw it differently and, if he has a small weakness as a manager, it is that he did not have a massive career as a player before he moved into management."

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/967967/liverpool-goalkeeper-pepe-reina-recalls-jamie-carragher-row?cc=3436

    Yeah, that's pretty much Carra does all day long. Trust him to argue in favour of long balls. Laughing
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:58 pm

    'You really think you're Franz Beckenbauer and you're always trying to play short passes when you should just empty it.'

    Basically he wants Pepe to hoof it into oblivion like he does. Fuck me if he listened to Carra and did that we'd be shite at counter attacking football.

    "Suddenly, the bartender turned up and said: 'The club doctor, medical staff and manager have made it clear to me they do not want you to have a beer.' I still don't know why this was the case but whatever the reason, I was fuming. I grabbed my bags and stormed off to my room without even having dinner. That is how upset I was.

    Laughing Pepe not worthy
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    Post by El_indian Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:01 pm

    My friends please find me a site where I can buy this Pepe autobiography and get it shipped to NZ..

    Maybe one of you could pick it up cheap and send it to me?
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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:10 pm

    El_indian wrote:My friends please find me a site where I can buy this Pepe autobiography and get it shipped to NZ..

    Maybe one of you could pick it up cheap and send it to me?


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    Post by SpiritOfShankly Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:16 pm

    [quote="Scouser_Dave"]
    'You really think you're Franz Beckenbauer and you're always trying to play short passes when you should just empty it.'

    Basically he wants Pepe to hoof it into oblivion like he does. Fuck me if he listened to Carra and did that we'd be shite at counter attacking football.




    We've scored quite a lot of goals from Pepe hitting it long, there's a time to do it and a time to play it short, the way people carry on on here it's like every ball played in the air more than 20 yards is hoofing it.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:31 pm

    Bogdan wrote:Not even close to 40 million, portsmouth owed us money from the crouch deal, same with roma from the riise deal. And there were appearance landmarks in Aquilani's contract, so we never paid near the reported 20 million for him.
    Irrelevant, that's just another for you to pay them, writing off other money they owe. What are these appearance landmarks, and how much do they influence the transfer fee?
    Mustangt125 wrote:Youre out of your depth RR. The point is BEFORE those players went to Barca/City we were after them and split hairs over a few mill and lost out on them.
    Alright, when were you in for Ronaldo? And when Barca/City came in for those players you'd have been blown out of the water anyway.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:38 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1335700/Gerard-Houllier-I-spotted-Ronaldo-Fergie-Liverpool-wouldnt-let-buy-.html
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:49 pm

    Scott wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1335700/Gerard-Houllier-I-spotted-Ronaldo-Fergie-Liverpool-wouldnt-let-buy-.html
    You can't really blame Hicks and Gillett for that. I'm not sure about the veracity of that article anyway, there is a blatant inaccuracy in the 13th paragraph.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:53 pm

    Hoping to see this for Man United ..

    Suarez
    Downing ------ Bellamy
    Adam - Gerrard
    Lucas
    Enrique Agger Carragher Johnson
    Reina

    I'm expecting this ..

    Carroll
    Kuyt
    Downing - Adam - Lucas - Henderson
    Enrique - Skrtel - Carragher - Kelly
    Reina

    With Gerrard, Suarez and Bellamy coming off the bench.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:54 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Scott wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1335700/Gerard-Houllier-I-spotted-Ronaldo-Fergie-Liverpool-wouldnt-let-buy-.html
    You can't really blame Hicks and Gillett for that. I'm not sure about the veracity of that article anyway, there is a blatant inaccuracy in the 13th paragraph.

    http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=84521

    I wasn't blameing G+H, was just proving we were in for him before you. IIRC he even pleaded to come here.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:54 pm

    What the fuck, no way will Suarez not start v us, I don't care where he's been for internationals, he will start.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:55 pm

    Scott wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:You can't really blame Hicks and Gillett for that. I'm not sure about the veracity of that article anyway, there is a blatant inaccuracy in the 13th paragraph.

    http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=84521

    I wasn't blameing G+H, was just proving we were in for him before you. IIRC he even pleaded to come here.

    I reckon the fact we bid over £12m for him, and we were the Champions at the time, would have changed his mind even if Liverpool had been in for him.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:55 pm

    Scott wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:You can't really blame Hicks and Gillett for that. I'm not sure about the veracity of that article anyway, there is a blatant inaccuracy in the 13th paragraph.

    http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/showthread.php?t=84521

    I wasn't blameing G+H, was just proving we were in for him before you. IIRC he even pleaded to come here.
    Good thing you didn't take him and ruin his career. shifty
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:56 pm

    He doesn't get back until Thursday night, we play Sat afternoon. Last time this happened, he was benched for Arsenal then came on and made a massive impact.
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    Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:58 pm

    Scott wrote:He doesn't get back until Thursday night, we play Sat afternoon. Last time this happened, he was benched for Arsenal then came on and made a massive impact.
    Never matters any way, you could probably play Kuyt up front as a lone striker and he'd smash 5 past us because you lot always just seem to up your game. silent
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:59 pm

    'If I know one thing it's that you definitely aren't Beckenbauer'

    Top stuff.
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    Post by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:04 am

    Thanks for finally complementing something one of our players does/says.
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    Post by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:05 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    Scott wrote:He doesn't get back until Thursday night, we play Sat afternoon. Last time this happened, he was benched for Arsenal then came on and made a massive impact.
    Never matters any way, you could probably play Kuyt up front as a lone striker and he'd smash 5 past us because you lot always just seem to up your game. silent

    Fucking hope he starts, or else we'll be 3-0 down by the time he comes on. True he made an impact against Arsenal, but things could have gone differently and we would have been left wondering why he didn't start.
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    Post by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:06 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Never matters any way, you could probably play Kuyt up front as a lone striker and he'd smash 5 past us because you lot always just seem to up your game. silent

    Fucking hope he starts, or else we'll be 3-0 down by the time he comes on. True he made an impact against Arsenal, but things could have gone differently and we would have been left wondering why he didn't start.
    Is this real life?
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    Post by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:07 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Never matters any way, you could probably play Kuyt up front as a lone striker and he'd smash 5 past us because you lot always just seem to up your game. silent

    Fucking hope he starts, or else we'll be 3-0 down by the time he comes on. True he made an impact against Arsenal, but things could have gone differently and we would have been left wondering why he didn't start.

    How does Suarez being on the pitch effect how many goals we concede?

    Also, we shouldn't be too scared. Man United have been shit lately. Rooney's not in a good state of mind, Man United drew with Stoke and then conceded 3 goals to Basel and were inferior to Norwich at Old Trafford for large parts of the game.

    This is the best time to be playing them.
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    Post by Guest Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:09 am

    Scott wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:

    Fucking hope he starts, or else we'll be 3-0 down by the time he comes on. True he made an impact against Arsenal, but things could have gone differently and we would have been left wondering why he didn't start.

    How does Suarez being on the pitch effect how many goals we concede?

    Also, we shouldn't be too scared. Man United have been shit lately. Rooney's not in a good state of mind, Man United drew with Stoke and then conceded 3 goals to Basel and were inferior to Norwich at Old Trafford for large parts of the game.

    This is the best time to be playing them.
    And Young is injured lololol, plus Fletcher will probably play and he's fucking shite.

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