by ResurrectionRooney Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:46 pm
Zzonked wrote: ResurrectionRooney wrote: Zzonked wrote: ResurrectionRooney wrote: Zzonked wrote:
I don't know if there are any grounds, but I'm just saying that swearing makes it easier for them to pinpoint something wrong with what he's said. Also I'd imagine the language will get more focus than his actual point now, even if it probably will get him more headlines. He could have just replaced the word shit with something less vulgar but still negative and I imagine it still would have got a lot of coverage.
It wouldn't, it just be another line in a press conference. You know that the FA mistreats us because we're the most high profile club, I think everyone knows it, we always get the most severe bans for our players (Cantona & Ferdinand), Ferguson always get punished, always gets banned, he even got charged for saying Howard Webb is a good referee. When has any other manager got a 5 match ban?
It needs to have attention drawn to it, and if this is the only way then this is the only way. If Liverpool's greatest legend, their second greatest player ever and their current manager, writing a long article about it doesn't get any attention, why the hell would Ferguson saying 'The FA treat us badly' get attention?
If everyone knows it why does it need to have attention drawn to it? Bit contradictory between those two paragraphs.
I genuinely think it would have still got a lot of attention without shit in it. If he'd said 'The FA treat us badly' or give us no respect or whatever, I still think it would have been in papers. The difference is, it would have actually been more focused on his point rather than the fact that grumpy old Fergie is swearing again. The reason Dalglish didn't get headlines is probably partially because he isn't part of United, so his opinion is less sought after than someone so directly involved with the club. Plus, an article isn't the same as a press conference. Articles are generally written for one specific paper and tend to stay in that paper. Press conferences give headlines to all the media which are present.
Because people brush it under the carpet.
The Liverpool manager coming out and saying United are mistreated is far more significant that Ferguson saying we are treated like shit by the FA - you'd expect United employees to say it, but Liverpool employees doing it is a big surprise, but it gets far less attention. Ferguson has said before that the FA treat us badly and he's got hardly any attention for it, if this is what he has to do then this is what he should do.
If people already understand, why does it need further attention? Clearly people get it, they just don't care, so this will be no different if that's true. Plus, if legitimate voices of this concern are written off, this one will be too, especially because his actual point isn't even the focal point of what he said, the word 'shit' is.
As I've already said an article isn't the same thing. Lots of people write articles but they only get attention from the paper they're published in. If Dalglish had said it in a press conference then it might have been different. A lot of this discussion seems anecdotal to be honest.
It needs further attention because it can't be allowed to slip out of the public consciousness, part of the reason United are victimised by the FA is that, like all successful clubs, in nearly all sports, there is a common public misconception that we are favoured by the authorities. We must draw attention to the fact that we are mistreated, by whatever means necessary, or the FA will continue to suck up to the public and mistreat us, and continue to use us to set an example.
Alan wrote: ResurrectionRooney wrote:No he wasn't, he was a Hamburg player, lets not turn this thread into another edition of you fighting against reality.
So with your so called reality, you are saying Michael Owen was better than Eric Cantona, Ryan Giggs, and Paul Scholes, and is one of the greatest players to have ever played in European football.
If you say so mate.
