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Fuck it I'd rather have Carroll upfront than Chamakh19Jones19v wrote:Fuck it I'd rather have Heskey up front than Chamakh
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Fuck it I'd rather have Akinbiyi up front than Chamakh and fuck me if Cissokho goes to Newcaslte UnitedSplashy wrote:Fuck it I'd rather have Carroll upfront than Chamakh19Jones19v wrote:Fuck it I'd rather have Heskey up front than Chamakh
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What are you lot on about? Chamakh is world class.
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Fuck it I'd rather have Van Persie upfront than Chamakh
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Chris wrote:What are you lot on about? Chamakh is world class.
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Can we not troll each other and have actual discussion?
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What would you like to discuss?justaddfinesse wrote:Can we not troll each other and have actual discussion?
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justaddfinesse wrote:Can we not troll each other and have actual discussion?
What should we discuss?
I'm getting really bored of talking about transfers that probably wont happen.
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We can talk about the fact that Jack Wilshere is the best Twitter man in the world.
checking out the 3d tvs today
checking out the 3d tvs today
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Fuck, he looks like something from X-Men.justaddfinesse wrote:We can talk about the fact that Jack Wilshere is the best Twitter man in the world.
checking out the 3d tvs today
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justaddfinesse wrote:We can talk about the fact that Jack Wilshere is the best Twitter man in the world.
checking out the 3d tvs today
Frimpong on twitter >>> Wilshere on twitter
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I honestly think we have the most entertaining tweeters in the league. So much dedication.
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I bolded one particular sentence that puzzled me.Lay off Arsene! Fergie leaps to defence of beleaguered Gunners boss Wenger
By MICHAEL WALKER
Last updated at 11:14 PM on 26th August 2011
It is, Sir Alex Ferguson said matter-of-factly, an unfair world. He was referring to Arsene Wenger and English football’s increasingly fraught and ‘tribal’ nature.
In the midst of a strong defence of the great managerial rival he meets once again at Old Trafford on Sunday, Ferguson said: ‘I’d like to know who’s going to replace him.
‘I think the work he has done in his 15 years at the club is the best in Arsenal’s history. Yes, he’s not won a trophy in six years, but what does that mean? The quality of his side has not been reduced, he still has great quality in that team.
Defence: Sir Alex Ferguson (right) has backed Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger
‘When you look at the competition, it’s stepped up in recent years. Chelsea’s involvement has created a lot of those problems –—they and ourselves have been dominating the Premier League. Manchester City have come on the scene, Tottenham had a great season last year and the season before. The competition is far greater.
‘When Arsenal and ourselves were going head to head, that went on for about eight years, you know. So it (the criticism) is a bit unfair. But then who understands fairness and unfairness today? It’s quite a cynical world and supporters are far less easy to please than they were 20 years ago.’
Ferguson’s tone was resigned. Despite all his success at United, and at Aberdeen before that, he too has had periods when his management has been questioned. When Chelsea began to soar on Roman Abramovich’s money and Jose Mourinho’s talent, they won consecutive league titles in 2005 and 2006, and Arsenal took the spoils in 2004.
There was an opinion around then that Ferguson had peaked, that he and United were on the way down.
Ferguson thought back to that and said: ‘You can’t stand still, put it that way. I’ve never tried to stand still.
Fight back: Manchester United recovered from losing their crown to Chelsea
‘The two years we lost the title to Chelsea, we had to think about how we’d get that title back. There was a lot of thinking about being a step ahead, looking forward, not looking back bemoaning how we lost the leagues.’
That was inside the building. Outside, United’s failure to win a title in three years was stirring vehement views. It is the same with Wenger now.
'Supporters of today don’t have the patience of 30 years ago,’ Ferguson said. ‘The country has become more tribal than ever through football. Clubs in the North and South, I’m aware of that.
‘When we go to play Liverpool, you know the atmosphere. The local derbies are becoming more volatile. Arsenal have got three or four London derbies. We look at our derby games: City, Liverpool and Bolton. I don’t think education comes into it. Supporters are more involved with their team.’
The Arsenal fans complaining about Wenger would probably argue that their patience has been tried by Wenger’s methods in the transfer market.
United completed their transfer dealings quickly after winning their 19th league title. Ashley Young arrived from Aston Villa, David de Gea from Atletico Madrid and Phil Jones from Blackburn.
Fresh faces: United have strengthened their squad with Ashley Young (centre)
Arsenal, by contrast, have let the Cesc Fabregas and Samir Nasri situations develop into a summer-long saga. Gervinho looks a promising buy, but Arsenal arrive in Manchester without a new centre half or experienced midfielder.
Ferguson was again sympathetic to Wenger, saying United had faced a similar Barcelona issue to Fabregas with Gerard Pique. United, he also noted, eventually had to accept that it was Cristiano Ronaldo’s ‘dream’ to play for Real Madrid after six years in Manchester.
Ferguson reiterated that in football the power now lies with players and agents and there was no criticism of Arsenal either when it came to Nasri. ‘It’s sensible to take the money’, he said.
But Arsenal supporters would surely note what Ferguson said shortly afterwards: ‘You cannot become bitter about these things because it’s the modern world. The important thing is to make sure we’re prepared for these moments.’
Talent drain: Arsenal have sold several key players including Samir Nasri
As an example, he said that was why Nani was acquired before Ronaldo departed. Gunners fans will ask why replacements for Fabregas and Nasri have yet to be recruited.
Only two league games have been played, Ferguson stressed when trying to keep the excitement about his young players in perspective, but United appear ready to mount a serious challenge for a 20th title.
Arsenal, meanwhile, have been fretting about ensuring qualification for the Champions League and with one point from their two league games, defeat on Sunday would leave them eight points adrift of United before August has ended.
Again without reference to Arsenal, Ferguson spoke of players such as Tom Cleverley earning their place in the team on here-and-now merit rather than on potential.
But again, Arsenal’s fanbase will take note. Ferguson did his best to relieve some of the pressure on Wenger; yet he could be about to apply more. Fairness may not come into it.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2030601/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-defends-Arsenal-boss-Arsene-Wenger.html#ixzz1WBp8LgCE
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They can't help it, they build themselves up only to be let down. If we pay anything more than £20-22M for Hazard we are stupid and desperate. Good young talent, but too many are going ape shit over him.Steadman wrote:You will all be left disappointed.
Henry wasn't a striker before he came to Arsenal so mentioning him is pointless. Henry's numbers as a winger/forward were very good. French young footballer of the year. People saying look at Martin because of his assist totals is flat out refuckingdiculous.BladeGunner14 wrote:justaddfinesse wrote:Take a look at his other years. Shit.
Take a look at Thierry Henry's statistics before he joined Arsenal...
Pretty much. it all just looks like blah blah blah to me.grenade187 wrote:Whenever I come on here I think "oh look 3 more pages to the thread, something big must have happened" but it's the same old shit. Linked with player. Somebody mentions he's over-rated. Fonesca says he's still better than Gervinho. Recycle.
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"...The quality of his side has not been reduced..."
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Arise are you crazy? WE ARE FUCKING DESPERATE.
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AriseForLife wrote:They can't help it, they build themselves up only to be let down. If we pay anything more than £20-22M for Hazard we are stupid and desperate. Good young talent, but too many are going ape shit over him.Steadman wrote:You will all be left disappointed.Henry wasn't a striker before he came to Arsenal so mentioning him is pointless. Henry's numbers as a winger/forward were very good. French young footballer of the year. People saying look at Martin because of his assist totals is flat out refuckingdiculous.BladeGunner14 wrote:justaddfinesse wrote:Take a look at his other years. Shit.
Take a look at Thierry Henry's statistics before he joined Arsenal...Pretty much. it all just looks like blah blah blah to me.grenade187 wrote:Whenever I come on here I think "oh look 3 more pages to the thread, something big must have happened" but it's the same old shit. Linked with player. Somebody mentions he's over-rated. Fonesca says he's still better than Gervinho. Recycle
We are desperate. And it's nothing to do with him being a good young player, he's currently the best player in France full stop so he'll go for quite a bit.
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I agree we are desperate, but not to the tune of over paying for a 20 year old that isn't going to suddenly make us the team to beat. People are so quick to bash Gervinho, but Hazard owes much of his success in his coming out season last year to the danger Gervinho posed yet people talk about Gervinho not being a player we should be aiming for.
Many say that bidding £20M on M'Vila is dumb, but I think he would add more to the team than over spending on Hazard. When he does leave Lille it will be for £20-25M, but these numbers I am hearing many of you spout are just absurdly high.
We do need a central defender, a striker, and another wide midfielder, but signing Hazard is not the answer. I would much rather see us drop a stack of cash on Kaka than over spending on Hazard. If Eden blows up at Lille this season and carries the team then I think it will justify his price, but right now, no.
Many say that bidding £20M on M'Vila is dumb, but I think he would add more to the team than over spending on Hazard. When he does leave Lille it will be for £20-25M, but these numbers I am hearing many of you spout are just absurdly high.
We do need a central defender, a striker, and another wide midfielder, but signing Hazard is not the answer. I would much rather see us drop a stack of cash on Kaka than over spending on Hazard. If Eden blows up at Lille this season and carries the team then I think it will justify his price, but right now, no.
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Arise i think about it like this.. it doesn't matter how much we pay for Hazard because it will be worth beating Liverpool to top 4 and being in the champions league next season. He is a class player who we would slot straight into our first team. Or we could just be stubborn, not pay the money.. Liverpool get in top 4, get all the champions league revenue and then buy Hazard themselves next season.. while we are left with even more quality players leaving and sliding into oblivion.
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Or......we could focus on grabbing other players with as much quality that could play for us right away and contribute just as much. Being desperate and overpaying for Hazard regardless of his potential is just silly in my opinion. It would be better if we would have done this while we still had Fabregas and Nasri, but Wenger decided to bull shit the summer away trying to keep players that were going to leave no matter what.
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Not my money, I don't give a fuck.
I want bodies, don't care who.
We bring Arsenal caliber players regardless.. [except for the odd ones like Squidwardllachi]
Arsene isn't stupid with signings and money, that's a fact.
I want bodies, don't care who.
We bring Arsenal caliber players regardless.. [except for the odd ones like Squidwardllachi]
Arsene isn't stupid with signings and money, that's a fact.
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Hope Arsenal do well this season. Cesc is irreplaceable but Nasri can hopefully be replaced by the time the window shuts. Wilshere is really over rated but Ramsey was a real class act before his injuy. Arshavin is a good player but he is ridiculously casual...
Hope Hazard signs for you...
Hope Hazard signs for you...
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Arise there is not another player with Hazards ability that we could pick up for cheap, if there was Wenger would have him by now. I agree with you Gervinho is quality and i think he will be class for us.
Wilshere overrated? If anything he is underrated. Ramsey is a good talent but needs to learn about controlling the tempo of a game and playing quick one-touch passes, he's always lurking about on the ball too much looking for a forward pass when he should be keeping the play flowing. Wilshere does it perfectly.TheRangersFan wrote:Hope Arsenal do well this season. Cesc is irreplaceable but Nasri can hopefully be replaced by the time the window shuts. Wilshere is really over rated but Ramsey was a real class act before his injuy. Arshavin is a good player but he is ridiculously casual...
Hope Hazard signs for you...
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This confuses me.. We seem to be after a CB, so thats 1. We seem to be after Hazard/Elia, so thats 2. We apparently want another ST, so thats 3.Mal wrote:http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-i-d-like-to-buy-three-more-players
So where has all this M'Vila business come from.
and if we are letting Traore go on loan, does that mean we will be using Vermaelen/Jenkinson/Sagna as our 2nd/3rd/4th choice left back. 
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TheRangersFan wrote:Hope Arsenal do well this season. Cesc is irreplaceable but Nasri can hopefully be replaced by the time the window shuts. Wilshere is really over rated but Ramsey was a real class act before his injuy. Arshavin is a good player but he is ridiculously casual...
Hope Hazard signs for you...
lolz
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AriseForLife wrote:Henry wasn't a striker before he came to Arsenal so mentioning him is pointless. Henry's numbers as a winger/forward were very good. French young footballer of the year. People saying look at Martin because of his assist totals is flat out refuckingdiculous.BladeGunner14 wrote:justaddfinesse wrote:Take a look at his other years. Shit.
Take a look at Thierry Henry's statistics before he joined Arsenal...
You completely missed the point. Thierry Henry had a pretty horrific year with Juventus, regardless of his position. However, the quality he had displayed in the past led Wenger to acquire him. If we were to take what justaddfinesse said then there really should not have been a reason to look at Henry as he'd only been good for a year or two as a youngster. The same can be applied to Martin as he's only had "one good year". I haven't seen very much of him at all but if you produce 17 assists then you've obviously done something right and it shows your quality. Hence, if Wenger chooses to invest in him then I would be more than satisfied because he has a history of turning players with potential into world class players.
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Gregory Van Der Wiel tweeted that he's on a plane to London.
RVP's close friend.
RVP's close friend.
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Mal wrote:Gregory Van Der Wiel tweeted that he's on a plane to London.
RVP's close friend.
Must be Chelsea, they need a new right-back.
