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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:13 am

    Steadman wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:Spending 20m+ on a guy who doesn't even outclass Song

    High five!

    Just buy a frickin center back
    Who says he wont buy a center back as well? M'Vila alongside Song could be the difference between a loss and a win against the big teams.

    That's not 20m worthy, you can have all the steel in midfield you want but if the defence is crap and the attack is dire then nothing's going to change.

    It's wenger, he had the choice of Hazard or Gervinho and he chose Gervinho which pissed me off in the first place. If reports are true then Wenger has actually realised the only player left to buy who has quality if Hazard
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:13 am

    Chris wrote:I wouldn't give a shit even if we paid £40M for Hulk. Money does not run around the field for us, players do and we have a lack of quality right now. Im sick of us showing absolutely no intent with buying countless £10M players and right now we've got alot of fucking money to spend. All i care about is the team, not how much profit our board can spend on their new yahts and mansions which is where its all going.
    I agree we need to buy, but you can honestly say you wouldn't be bothered with Arsenal forking over £40m for a player that isn't worth more than £20-26m tops? Also where would he play? We us one striker and Arsene is not going to change our formation to suit him. If we paid that much for Hulk I would fucking bomb the Emirates. I wouldn't even want us paying that much for Benzema who I think is better and would be a better partner for Van Persie if we changed to a 4-4-1-1.

    However as I said, I agree with you that we need to start spending because at this rate we are falling behind both Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Tottenham.
    Steadman wrote:Agreed. Even a midfield partnership with the both of them could work to our benefit, they can both easily switch their attacking and defensive duties between the pair of them throughout the match.

    Also links in with my posts a few pages back.

    Yeah it would be crazy to see them both paired in the middle, and I wouldn't really care if Song ventured more because Yann knows how to shut it down in the middle of the park. Signing him might also make me start liking Laurent and Johan more since he would also be shielding the back line.

    After he renewed his deal I just knew we would never go for him so I am shocked thta he would make this move now when he could have had him for far less had we made a £15M offer before he signed an extension. Fucking Wenger and his procrastination.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:17 am

    Well i wouldn't care Arise because the board have obviously taken shitloads of profits out of the club that should have been spent on players anyway. I would play Hulk in a 433 just like Porto have.

    Gervinho---------RVP---------Hulk
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:18 am

    Fonseca wrote:That's not 20m worthy, you can have all the steel in midfield you want but if the defence is crap and the attack is dire then nothing's going to change.

    It's wenger, he had the choice of Hazard or Gervinho and he chose Gervinho which pissed me off in the first place. If reports are true then Wenger has actually realised the only player left to buy who has quality if Hazard

    The price is only that high because he was a fucking moron and decide to bid now rather than when he could have gotten him cheaper before he extended. That is Wenger's own damn fault, but he would be a solid signing nevertheless. With Song always a bad tackle or stupid decision away from a ban (like he has already done) having Yann as cover as opposed to a wreckless and just as aggressive Frimpong is a better option. Ultimately I would have rather we signed Matuidi who would have been cheaper and is better in my opinion, but this would be a good signing either way.

    He had the choice of either, but Lille decided to keep Hazard were as Gervinho said he wouldn't come back to play for them. Its a matter of he chose us and Wenger agreed since he has been tracking the player for years. No matter how you look at it if we did sign Hazard we are going to over pay no matter what.
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:20 am

    Chris wrote:Well i wouldn't care Arise because the board have obviously taken shitloads of profits out of the club that should have been spent on players anyway. I would play Hulk in a 433 just like Porto have.

    Gervinho---------RVP---------Hulk

    That could work although because of his natural instincts I would rather have Robin out wide and Hulk in the middle. I still think his price is a turn off because Porto just robbed Atletico for Falcao and you know they will do the same with Hulk if anyone wants him.
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:20 am

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    Post by AriseForLife Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:21 am

    Well time for me to hit the yard.

    Be cool.
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    Post by Grenade Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:25 am

    Fonseca wrote:Spending 20m+ on a guy who doesn't even outclass Song

    High five!

    Just buy a frickin center back
    This is what I don't understand. He is a minor improvement to Song, total waste of money if you ask me. Don't really think he's as good as some people are making out. Song was a total nightmare biblical beast today with his strength, tackling and runs. I think the old Song is back cheers

    Chris wrote:
    Marvin wrote:
    Chris wrote:How much have we spent this window?

    Sold: Cesc £35M, Nasri £24M, Clichy £7M, Eboue £4M = £70M

    Wenger should make a fucking big signing like Hazard or Hulk or il smash his face in.
    Why do you want Hulk all of a sudden?
    Just want a quality attacking player to come in and he fits the bill.
    Fuck Hulk. I understand he is a very good player, however he has a very high release clause and I cant see Porto willing to negotiate any type of deal for him especially after losing Falcao. They would probably say "right £50m and that Bendtner chap or get the fuck rolling voyeur".
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    Post by Steadman Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:26 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    Steadman wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:Spending 20m+ on a guy who doesn't even outclass Song

    High five!

    Just buy a frickin center back
    Who says he wont buy a center back as well? M'Vila alongside Song could be the difference between a loss and a win against the big teams.

    That's not 20m worthy, you can have all the steel in midfield you want but if the defence is crap and the attack is dire then nothing's going to change.

    It's wenger, he had the choice of Hazard or Gervinho and he chose Gervinho which pissed me off in the first place. If reports are true then Wenger has actually realised the only player left to buy who has quality if Hazard
    No, but a midfield partnership made up of Song and M'Vila adds great defensive qualities to our midfield, and also allows us to change shape and tactics more easily. Face it, Song on his own is rash and attacks too much, a partner like M'Vila adds another layer of protection for our back four (and thats not including another center back acquisition). We've always won things with a combative and dominating midfield partnership, our attackers will have much more license to go forward, even Alex Song. I'm not saying we shouldn't buy another center back, but this signing will certainly help areas of our team that need patching up.

    I've already spoke about about Gervinho and Hazard and my thoughts are out there on the both of them. I'm giving Arsene until the end of the transfer window to see what he can work out, this is his last chance to keep this club challenging for some silverware.

    If our actions are not ambitious at the end of the window, then I agree with you.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:35 am

    Steadman wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    Steadman wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:Spending 20m+ on a guy who doesn't even outclass Song

    High five!

    Just buy a frickin center back
    Who says he wont buy a center back as well? M'Vila alongside Song could be the difference between a loss and a win against the big teams.

    That's not 20m worthy, you can have all the steel in midfield you want but if the defence is crap and the attack is dire then nothing's going to change.

    It's wenger, he had the choice of Hazard or Gervinho and he chose Gervinho which pissed me off in the first place. If reports are true then Wenger has actually realised the only player left to buy who has quality if Hazard
    No, but a midfield partnership made up of Song and M'Vila adds great defensive qualities to our midfield, and also allows us to change shape and tactics more easily. Face it, Song on his own is rash and attacks too much, a partner like M'Vila adds another layer of protection for our back four (and thats not including another center back acquisition). We've always won things with a combative and dominating midfield partnership, our attackers will have much more license to go forward, even Alex Song. I'm not saying we shouldn't buy another center back, but this signing will certainly help areas of our team that need patching up.

    I've already spoke about about Gervinho and Hazard and my thoughts are out there on the both of them. I'm giving Arsene until the end of the transfer window to see what he can work out, this is his last chance to keep this club challenging for some silverware.

    If our actions are not ambitious at the end of the window, then I agree with you.

    I would like him but not for that price, of course he's a big improvement but the way I see it is that they'll only play in 4-2-3-1 and it's just a waste of money really. If he's prepared to break our transfer record to prove his intent on improving the team then why use it in a position we don't need.

    It's just baffling, in boardroom discussions how well would it go down that Wenger wants to spend 20m+ on a midfielder he stresses will be worth it when everyone knows that from team reports that the defence is weakest
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:36 am

    I've not seen M'vila but i have seen opionions that have huge contrast from Steadman and Arise's.

    Don't know what to make of him.
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    Post by Steadman Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:43 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    Steadman wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    Steadman wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:Spending 20m+ on a guy who doesn't even outclass Song

    High five!

    Just buy a frickin center back
    Who says he wont buy a center back as well? M'Vila alongside Song could be the difference between a loss and a win against the big teams.

    That's not 20m worthy, you can have all the steel in midfield you want but if the defence is crap and the attack is dire then nothing's going to change.

    It's wenger, he had the choice of Hazard or Gervinho and he chose Gervinho which pissed me off in the first place. If reports are true then Wenger has actually realised the only player left to buy who has quality if Hazard
    No, but a midfield partnership made up of Song and M'Vila adds great defensive qualities to our midfield, and also allows us to change shape and tactics more easily. Face it, Song on his own is rash and attacks too much, a partner like M'Vila adds another layer of protection for our back four (and thats not including another center back acquisition). We've always won things with a combative and dominating midfield partnership, our attackers will have much more license to go forward, even Alex Song. I'm not saying we shouldn't buy another center back, but this signing will certainly help areas of our team that need patching up.

    I've already spoke about about Gervinho and Hazard and my thoughts are out there on the both of them. I'm giving Arsene until the end of the transfer window to see what he can work out, this is his last chance to keep this club challenging for some silverware.

    If our actions are not ambitious at the end of the window, then I agree with you.

    I would like him but not for that price, of course he's a big improvement but the way I see it is that they'll only play in 4-2-3-1 and it's just a waste of money really. If he's prepared to break our transfer record to prove his intent on improving the team then why use it in a position we don't need.

    It's just baffling, in boardroom discussions how well would it go down that Wenger wants to spend 20m+ on a midfielder he stresses will be worth it when everyone knows that from team reports that the defence is weakest
    Like I said, if M'Vila is the only acquisition we make this window, then I wholeheartedly agree with you Fonseca. If we were to add a center back and possibly a winger who can play through the center, then I'd settle for that.

    Of course I would love another left back and striker, but that may be a stretch to far for one transfer window.
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    Post by wellz Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:01 am

    “Man City fans are passionate and remind me a little of Marseille,”
    said Nasri, who was mobbed by Blues supporters outside the Etihad
    Stadium on Wednesday.
    “Arsenal have good fans, but they are not as passionate since they moved from Highbury.
    “I remember when we played against Man City and lost 3-0 and the crowd were amazing. That’s what I want.
    "When you play football, you want a good atmosphere and the stadium is unbelievable.
    “When I saw the [City] fans had tattoos and were passionate, I thought, 'That’s what I want.'



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    Post by Steadman Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:02 am

    Already been posted.
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    Post by The Bat-Man Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:06 am

    M'Vila is much better than Matuidi going forward, M'Vila is kind of a box to box midfielder with great passing, is he worth £20 million, not really, is he better than Song, very possible.

    Would be a good signing although if we get a winger and play 442 I'll be happy.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:09 am

    It would only make sense for Wenger to increase the depth of a position we don't really need additions to. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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    Post by Steadman Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:10 am

    justaddfinesse wrote:It would only make sense for Wenger to increase the depth of a position we don't really need additions to. I wouldn't have it any other way.
    We do need another central midfielder though.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:11 am

    Steadman wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    Steadman wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    Steadman wrote:
    Who says he wont buy a center back as well? M'Vila alongside Song could be the difference between a loss and a win against the big teams.

    That's not 20m worthy, you can have all the steel in midfield you want but if the defence is crap and the attack is dire then nothing's going to change.

    It's wenger, he had the choice of Hazard or Gervinho and he chose Gervinho which pissed me off in the first place. If reports are true then Wenger has actually realised the only player left to buy who has quality if Hazard
    No, but a midfield partnership made up of Song and M'Vila adds great defensive qualities to our midfield, and also allows us to change shape and tactics more easily. Face it, Song on his own is rash and attacks too much, a partner like M'Vila adds another layer of protection for our back four (and thats not including another center back acquisition). We've always won things with a combative and dominating midfield partnership, our attackers will have much more license to go forward, even Alex Song. I'm not saying we shouldn't buy another center back, but this signing will certainly help areas of our team that need patching up.

    I've already spoke about about Gervinho and Hazard and my thoughts are out there on the both of them. I'm giving Arsene until the end of the transfer window to see what he can work out, this is his last chance to keep this club challenging for some silverware.

    If our actions are not ambitious at the end of the window, then I agree with you.

    I would like him but not for that price, of course he's a big improvement but the way I see it is that they'll only play in 4-2-3-1 and it's just a waste of money really. If he's prepared to break our transfer record to prove his intent on improving the team then why use it in a position we don't need.

    It's just baffling, in boardroom discussions how well would it go down that Wenger wants to spend 20m+ on a midfielder he stresses will be worth it when everyone knows that from team reports that the defence is weakest
    Like I said, if M'Vila is the only acquisition we make this window, then I wholeheartedly agree with you Fonseca. If we were to add a center back and possibly a winger who can play through the center, then I'd settle for that.

    Of course I would love another left back and striker, but that may be a stretch to far for one transfer window.

    We'll just have to see
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    Post by Ricardo Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:12 am

    AriseForLife wrote:
    Chris wrote:Well i wouldn't care Arise because the board have obviously taken shitloads of profits out of the club that should have been spent on players anyway. I would play Hulk in a 433 just like Porto have.

    Gervinho---------RVP---------Hulk

    That could work although because of his natural instincts I would rather have Robin out wide and Hulk in the middle. I still think his price is a turn off because Porto just robbed Atletico for Falcao and you know they will do the same with Hulk if anyone wants him.

    The fuck? Don't you know what type of player Hulk is? You do know he dwarfs van Persie in near enough all attributes required for wingers right?
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:33 am

    piersmorgan Piers Morgan
    I suspect Mr Nasri will discover just how lacking in passion #Arsenal fans are when he plays against us in a City shirt. #EmiratesInferno
    Well said.
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    Post by The Bat-Man Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:38 am



    Watch this video every day before I go to bed, just typifies what being faithful to the Arsenal cause feels like.
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    Post by SBSP Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:45 am

    Probably been said, but the Arsenal team that played today contained every letter of the alphabet. shifty
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:49 am

    SBSP wrote:Probably been said, but the Arsenal team that played today contained every letter of the alphabet. shifty

    That's really interesting.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:55 am

    The Bat-Man wrote:

    Watch this video every day before I go to bed, just typifies what being faithful to the Arsenal cause feels like.

    Seeing Fabregas in that video is so depressing. That passion and skill coming out of him is just.. overwhelming to witness. I just loved his energy.
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    Post by The Bat-Man Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:58 am

    SBSP wrote:Probably been said, but the Arsenal team that played today contained every letter of the alphabet. shifty

    Not surprising.

    So what will be our line up against United.

    Hopefully we'll sign someone by then.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:00 pm

    SBSP wrote:Probably been said, but the Arsenal team that played today contained every letter of the alphabet. shifty
    Dry Smile

    Who has an "x" in their name?
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    Post by SBSP Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:01 pm

    Splashy wrote:
    SBSP wrote:Probably been said, but the Arsenal team that played today contained every letter of the alphabet. shifty
    Dry Smile

    Who has an "x" in their name?
    Oxlade-Chamberlain.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:02 pm

    SBSP wrote:
    Splashy wrote:
    SBSP wrote:Probably been said, but the Arsenal team that played today contained every letter of the alphabet. shifty
    Dry Smile

    Who has an "x" in their name?
    Oxlade-Chamberlain.

    I forgot about Oxo-Cube Embarassed
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:02 pm

    Chamberlain didn't play, it's Alex Song.

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