Manchester United FC Official Thread

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Man Utd is about whatever the management want it to be about, don't be deluded into thinking it's not.

I really hate this sort of pathetic attitude, 'we don't need to compete with Barca', well they're the best team in the world, that's where we want to be, so I'd say looking at them as a benchmark is pretty fucking imperative, wouldn't you?

ahm no, why should we obsess about barca... real madrid should be the ones obsessing about them as they are the ones fighting with them on regular basis

we should be worried about staying top of the english teams, cause in the CL anything can happen. we can beat barca on any day as ca any other team so why bother trying to match them by buying expensive players... who the fuck cares who has the label of best team in the world. grow up

what if we sign all the players you say... and we play barca and lose, then what?? you think sneijder is the difference between us beating barca and not being them? they will still be labeled the best team in the world no matter who we sign. MAdrid have better individual players then us and maybe even barca but in the end that doesnt matter.

What is the best way to make sure we stay on top of the English teams? Make our side as good as possible. What is the best way to beat Barcelona? Make our side as good as possible. This attitude 'Oh we won the League, we're fine, Barcelona are too good', it's pathetic. Signing Sneijder would give us a better chance of defeating Barcelona because it would improve the team, it'd give us a better chance of beating anyone else as well. I accept that Barca are better than us, and they would be if we signed Sneijder, but that's no reason not to fucking sign him is it? They'll sure as hell be better than us if we bring in Cleverley, Pogba and Welbeck, should we forget about them?

no that is not guaranteed! did veron improve the team?

Fergie wants to give Pogba and Cleverley a chance that they deserve and i am 100% behind that. and only Modric would improve us

It's far from guaranteed that Pogba and Cleverely will improve the team as well, in fact I'd say it's a lot less likely. Do you know how many fucking lauded young players we've had come through who were supposedly going to be the next Beckham, the next Scholes, the next Ronaldo? Do the names David Jones, David Healy, Jonathan Greening, Chris Eagles mean anything to you? Probably not, because they were all lauded players, and when they were put into the first team everyone used a Hansen quote to laugh at people who doubted them (Hansen was right by the way), and they ended up being shit. Darren Fletcher was supposed to be an attacking midfielder, lauded as the next Beckham, he ended up being the next Nicky Butt, Kieran Richardson was hailed as being more talented than Giggs, the next big thing, ended up at Sunderland.

Who was the last youth player we brought through who ended up being as good as Sneijder? Who was the last youth player we brought through who ended up being half as good as Sneijder? John O'Shea, that's who, and that was over 10 years ago, so forgive me if I don't have much fucking faith in kids.

ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:

ahm no, why should we obsess about barca... real madrid should be the ones obsessing about them as they are the ones fighting with them on regular basis

we should be worried about staying top of the english teams, cause in the CL anything can happen. we can beat barca on any day as ca any other team so why bother trying to match them by buying expensive players... who the fuck cares who has the label of best team in the world. grow up

what if we sign all the players you say... and we play barca and lose, then what?? you think sneijder is the difference between us beating barca and not being them? they will still be labeled the best team in the world no matter who we sign. MAdrid have better individual players then us and maybe even barca but in the end that doesnt matter.

What is the best way to make sure we stay on top of the English teams? Make our side as good as possible. What is the best way to beat Barcelona? Make our side as good as possible. This attitude 'Oh we won the League, we're fine, Barcelona are too good', it's pathetic. Signing Sneijder would give us a better chance of defeating Barcelona because it would improve the team, it'd give us a better chance of beating anyone else as well. I accept that Barca are better than us, and they would be if we signed Sneijder, but that's no reason not to fucking sign him is it? They'll sure as hell be better than us if we bring in Cleverley, Pogba and Welbeck, should we forget about them?

no that is not guaranteed! did veron improve the team?

Fergie wants to give Pogba and Cleverley a chance that they deserve and i am 100% behind that. and only Modric would improve us

It's far from guaranteed that Pogba and Cleverely will improve the team as well, in fact I'd say it's a lot less likely. Do you know how many fucking lauded young players we've had come through who were supposedly going to be the next Beckham, the next Scholes, the next Ronaldo? Do the names David Jones, David Healy, Jonathan Greening, Chris Eagles mean anything to you? Probably not, because they were all lauded players, and when they were put into the first team everyone used a Hansen quote to laugh at people who doubted them (Hansen was right by the way), and they ended up being shit. Darren Fletcher was supposed to be an attacking midfielder, lauded as the next Beckham, he ended up being the next Nicky Butt, Kieran Richardson was hailed as being more talented than Giggs, the next big thing, ended up at Sunderland.

Who was the last youth player we brought through who ended up being as good as Sneijder? Who was the last youth player we brought through who ended up being half as good as Sneijder? John O'Shea, that's who, and that was over 10 years ago, so forgive me if I don't have much fucking faith in kids.

yes but if you dont give them a chance you cant find out. without wasting millions of pounds

being in debt makes it even more risky

Sneijder is not the right man anyway so i dont know why you set him as the standard. and it doesnt even have to be cleverley or pogba, a player like anderson now has to prove his worth. can he step up like nani did when ronaldo left..

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Let's get rid of Rooney then, save millions of pounds on his wages, get a massive transfer fee, and see if Will Keane can make it. This sort of thinking is why Arsenal never win anything.

Sneijder is the man, Anderson is a fat fucking waste of space, people have been talking about him stepping up and proving his worth for years now, I'll believe it when I see it.

ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Let's get rid of Rooney then, save millions of pounds on his wages, get a massive transfer fee, and see if Will Keane can make it. This sort of thinking is why Arsenal never win anything.

Sneijder is the man, Anderson is a fat fucking waste of space, people have been talking about him stepping up and proving his worth for years now, I'll believe it when I see it.

thats just a stupid comment... no relevance at all, i am just gonna put that to a slip up by you cause that comment made you seem really stupid

this has nothing to do with arsenal(who have not won anything for 5+ years), we already have won the league and we improved by buying young and jones. now the question is do we need to buy someone for £35m + high wages and hope he works out or give promising player like cleverley a chance in the team which he deserves.

Cleverley isnt like the likes of eagles, those players were never praised by loan managers saying they are gonna be big. Cleverley has the feeling of Wilshere about him, if Cleverley turned out to be as good as Wilshere we wont need anyone

If you want sneijder just to compete with barca then you are more silly then i thought, if you really think just sneijder would make us favourites against barca

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Let's get rid of Rooney then, save millions of pounds on his wages, get a massive transfer fee, and see if Will Keane can make it. This sort of thinking is why Arsenal never win anything.

Sneijder is the man, Anderson is a fat fucking waste of space, people have been talking about him stepping up and proving his worth for years now, I'll believe it when I see it.

thats just a stupid comment... no relevance at all, i am just gonna put that to a slip up by you cause that comment made you seem really stupid

this has nothing to do with arsenal(who have not won anything for 5+ years), we already have won the league and we improved by buying young and jones. now the question is do we need to buy someone for £35m + high wages and hope he works out or give promising player like cleverley a chance in the team which he deserves.

Cleverley isnt like the likes of eagles, those players were never praised by loan managers saying they are gonna be big. Cleverley has the feeling of Wilshere about him, if Cleverley turned out to be as good as Wilshere we wont need anyone

If you want sneijder just to compete with barca then you are more silly then i thought, if you really think just sneijder would make us favourites against barca

It does have relevance, you're saying don't sign Sneijder because we'll save millions and see how young players do, I'm saying sell Rooney because we'll earn millions (Business tip: the opportunity cost of not selling Rooney is the same as the transfer fee we'd receive) and we'll save money on wages, and we'll get the chance to see how young players do.

Everyone was saying Foster was going to be big, including his loan managers, what did he do? What? Clevereley has the 'feeling of Wilshere' what the fuck does that mean? You have some silly little hunch? Well that's me convinced.

We haven't improved by any stretch, we've lost one of the best goalkeepers in the world, we've lost a key player in John O'Shea and one of our greatest ever players in Paul Scholes. A worse goalkeeper, a central defender who in all reality should be 5th choice and a winger who isn't as good as Nani or Valencia, that doesn't offset that.

I don't think Sneijder would make us favourites against Barca you fucking weapon, haven't I already said that? The better our team is, the better our chances, against any opponent, including Barcelona, that's why I want us to sign him, I want our team to improve as much as possible.

ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Let's get rid of Rooney then, save millions of pounds on his wages, get a massive transfer fee, and see if Will Keane can make it. This sort of thinking is why Arsenal never win anything.

Sneijder is the man, Anderson is a fat fucking waste of space, people have been talking about him stepping up and proving his worth for years now, I'll believe it when I see it.

thats just a stupid comment... no relevance at all, i am just gonna put that to a slip up by you cause that comment made you seem really stupid

this has nothing to do with arsenal(who have not won anything for 5+ years), we already have won the league and we improved by buying young and jones. now the question is do we need to buy someone for £35m + high wages and hope he works out or give promising player like cleverley a chance in the team which he deserves.

Cleverley isnt like the likes of eagles, those players were never praised by loan managers saying they are gonna be big. Cleverley has the feeling of Wilshere about him, if Cleverley turned out to be as good as Wilshere we wont need anyone

If you want sneijder just to compete with barca then you are more silly then i thought, if you really think just sneijder would make us favourites against barca

It does have relevance, you're saying don't sign Sneijder because we'll save millions and see how young players do, I'm saying sell Rooney because we'll earn millions (Business tip: the opportunity cost of not selling Rooney is the same as the transfer fee we'd receive) and we'll save money on wages, and we'll get the chance to see how young players do.

Everyone was saying Foster was going to be big, including his loan managers, what did he do? What? Clevereley has the 'feeling of Wilshere' what the fuck does that mean? You have some silly little hunch? Well that's me convinced.

We haven't improved by any stretch, we've lost one of the best goalkeepers in the world, we've lost a key player in John O'Shea and one of our greatest ever players in Paul Scholes. A worse goalkeeper, a central defender who in all reality should be 5th choice and a winger who isn't as good as Nani or Valencia, that doesn't offset that.

I don't think Sneijder would make us favourites against Barca you fucking weapon, haven't I already said that? The better our team is, the better our chances, against any opponent, including Barcelona, that's why I want us to sign him, I want our team to improve as much as possible.

really? you gonna make me explain? losing rooney would make us worse!! where as not signing sneijder would not. simple as. i can go deeper but honestly, dont make me... just give up that point, it was silly

Oshea a key player? ok.. thats why we sold him willingly. WTF is it with you and Oshea love, he was average at best and i was happy to see him go. i get the feeling you are not the best judge of players

if you want us to sign sneijder and you feel he will improve us then i have to accept that, i just dont think he is the right man and also i dont like the attitude you have of not giving promising young players a chance.

i would love a quality CM for a reasonable price but it wouldnt be the end of the world if we dont sign one. i 100% do not want Sneijder especially for the price he is at

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

If we sell Rooney we will be worse than if we keep Rooney, but we will have more money and more young players will have a chance.
If we don't sign Sneijder we will be worse than if we do sign Sneijder, but we will have more money and more young players will have a chance.

You need to stop being so adversarial and try to understand this. If you think something is absurd but someone respected is saying it, then there's a good chance that person knows what they are talking about and you just can't grasp it.

John O'Shea made over 40 appearances a season on average for us in the last 9 seasons, he was a highly important player, hero of the Premier League in 2006/07, leader to the Champions League Final in 2009 and 2011, I don't know why you don't like him.

I don't like the fucking attitude you have of not wanting United to improve so kids can have a chance, if they are good enough that we don't need Sneijder then they will get their chance to prove it, Sneijder's wouldn't play every game, and if we don't need him then we can get most of our money back by selling him in a year's time.

ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

If we sell Rooney we will be worse than if we keep Rooney, but we will have more money and more young players will have a chance.
If we don't sign Sneijder we will be worse than if we do sign Sneijder, but we will have more money and more young players will have a chance.

You need to stop being so adversarial and try to understand this. If you think something is absurd but someone respected is saying it, then there's a good chance that person knows what they are talking about and you just can't grasp it.

John O'Shea made over 40 appearances a season on average for us in the last 9 seasons, he was a highly important player, hero of the Premier League in 2006/07, leader to the Champions League Final in 2009 and 2011, I don't know why you don't like him.

I don't like the fucking attitude you have of not wanting United to improve so kids can have a chance, if they are good enough that we don't need Sneijder then they will get their chance to prove it, Sneijder's wouldn't play every game, and if we don't need him then we can get most of our money back by selling him in a year's time.

nope, still retarded

We still need to be winning the league and selling rooney would make us worse and would give us money we dont need

if we dont sign Sneijder we do not lose anything including money.

one is about selling the other is about buying, totally different things. i cant believe how thick you are being on this. then we may aswell sell everyone if we want money... no thats not the point, its about spending money wisely. we may pay for sneijder if we finish 4th and need to improve. ATM we dont NEED to improve

if we were talking about buying a striker when we have a young stikers that are promising, then it would be relevant. STOP BEING SO THICK

selling after one year.. not many teams are willing to pay for a reject.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
You arrogance on this matter disgusts and astounds me in equal measure. You go and achieve an A-Level in Business Studies, like I have done, you make sure you ask your tutor about Opportunity Costs and then you'll realise who's being thick about this. You'll feel very stupid when you do.

ViVaRooney wrote:yet we did fine last season..

this isnt just about cleverley and pogba.. they wont be first choice right away anyway, they will just get mroe chances

VivaRonaldo wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:yet we did fine last season..

this isnt just about cleverley and pogba.. they wont be first choice right away anyway, they will just get mroe chances

We had a lad names Scholes and another named Giggs in CM.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:Sneijder is the man, Anderson is a fat fucking waste of space, people have been talking about him stepping up and proving his worth for years now, I'll believe it when I see it.

ViVaRooney wrote:

VivaRonaldo wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:yet we did fine last season..

this isnt just about cleverley and pogba.. they wont be first choice right away anyway, they will just get mroe chances

We had a lad names Scholes and another named Giggs in CM.

Giggs is still there and Scholes played the least amount of games ever last year and he had very little impact

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ViVaRooney wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:
You arrogance on this matter disgusts and astounds me in equal measure. You go and achieve an A-Level in Business Studies, like I have done, you make sure you ask your tutor about Opportunity Costs and then you'll realise who's being thick about this. You'll feel very stupid when you do.

well done you got a A level on that....


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i am sure your studies doesnt cover football and since you dont work at the club you cant have enough info to bring that kind of experience into it. as said losing rooney 100% wouldnt make us worse and give us money we dont need. where as with sneijder we would have to spend money we dont need to and there is no guarantee he will work out. so then the risk comes into it, are we willing to risk it atm? i dont think so

VivaRonaldo wrote:Wes Brown MOTM against Liverpool

kyro7 wrote:

VivaRonaldo wrote:Wes Brown MOTM against Liverpool

Is that your opinion or official?

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