The Moyes Delusion

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

XxBradKennedyxX wrote:Id like to see him replace harry when he inevitably takes the england job, Moyes has done very well with the budget hes had and it would be very interesting to see what he can do with decent funds.

What had he done with that budget that is so exceptional?

Hitchy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

XxBradKennedyxX wrote:Id like to see him replace harry when he inevitably takes the england job, Moyes has done very well with the budget hes had and it would be very interesting to see what he can do with decent funds.

What had he done with that budget that is so exceptional?

I was looking through old threads and just had to reply to this...

Everton under Moyes has finished 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th, 7th. 7 top 8 finishes in 9 full years in charge. The 5th most points accumulated in that time. The 6th most goals scored and the 5th fewest let in. 14th highest net spend on transfers in that time. Hasn't finished below a club with a budget less than his for 5 seasons.

justaddfinesse wrote:He's doing everything he can with what he's got. The fact that he is able to hold on to quality talent for as long as he has.. and they actually want to be there.. says a lot.

He's the real deal, a real man that tells you how it is. The owners... well.. aren't helping.

Fanatic wrote:RR Delusion - he thinks he's intelligent.

Splashy wrote:

Fanatic wrote:RR Delusion - he thinks he's intelligent.

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ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Hitchy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

XxBradKennedyxX wrote:Id like to see him replace harry when he inevitably takes the england job, Moyes has done very well with the budget hes had and it would be very interesting to see what he can do with decent funds.

What had he done with that budget that is so exceptional?

I was looking through old threads and just had to reply to this...

Everton under Moyes has finished 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th, 7th. 7 top 8 finishes in 9 full years in charge. The 5th most points accumulated in that time. The 6th most goals scored and the 5th fewest let in. 14th highest net spend on transfers in that time. Hasn't finished below a club with a budget less than his for 5 seasons.

Net spend is the most fucking misleading statistic to ever be pulled out of the arseholes of people like you. Don't talk to me about net spend, if you want to put a decent argument across you're going to have to include wage budgets as well, to exclude those is absurd. You cannot talk about transfer budget or wage budget on it's own.

justaddfinesse wrote:He's doing everything he can with what he's got. The fact that he is able to hold on to quality talent for as long as he has.. and they actually want to be there.. says a lot.

He's the real deal, a real man that tells you how it is. The owners... well.. aren't helping.

He didn't keep the best player they've ever had though, did he? The player was an Everton fan himself and still Moyes couldn't keep hold of him, he didn't want to be there, because he knew what Moyes would lead Everton to, mediocrity, the only saving grace being that it's consistent mediocrity.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Splashy wrote:

Fanatic wrote:RR Delusion - he thinks he's intelligent.

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Please refrain from pointless posts.

Splashy wrote:

Fanatic wrote:RR Delusion - he thinks he's intelligent.

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Hitchy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Hitchy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

XxBradKennedyxX wrote:Id like to see him replace harry when he inevitably takes the england job, Moyes has done very well with the budget hes had and it would be very interesting to see what he can do with decent funds.

What had he done with that budget that is so exceptional?

I was looking through old threads and just had to reply to this...

Everton under Moyes has finished 7th, 17th, 4th, 11th, 6th, 5th, 5th, 8th, 7th. 7 top 8 finishes in 9 full years in charge. The 5th most points accumulated in that time. The 6th most goals scored and the 5th fewest let in. 14th highest net spend on transfers in that time. Hasn't finished below a club with a budget less than his for 5 seasons.

Net spend is the most fucking misleading statistic to ever be pulled out of the arseholes of people like you. Don't talk to me about net spend, if you want to put a decent argument across you're going to have to include wage budgets as well, to exclude those is absurd. You cannot talk about transfer budget or wage budget on it's own.

justaddfinesse wrote:He's doing everything he can with what he's got. The fact that he is able to hold on to quality talent for as long as he has.. and they actually want to be there.. says a lot.

He's the real deal, a real man that tells you how it is. The owners... well.. aren't helping.

He didn't keep the best player they've ever had though, did he? The player was an Everton fan himself and still Moyes couldn't keep hold of him, he didn't want to be there, because he knew what Moyes would lead Everton to, mediocrity, the only saving grace being that it's consistent mediocrity.

Selling Rooney was probably the best thing for the club in hindsight... without the money we got from him we probably would've been relegated by now. That's a poor argument anyway, of course an exciting young talent is more likely to join one of the biggest clubs in the world for a massive pay rise and the guarantee of trophies rather than stay with his boyhood club. There is no loyalty in football

Dan wrote:He's done well, he won the 'Finish above the Redshite Cup' in 2005 and won the 'Best team named Everton' trophy as well.

Alan wrote:

Dan wrote:He's done well, he won the 'Finish above the Redshite Cup' in 2005 and won the 'Best team named Everton' trophy as well.

Hitchy wrote:Dan, you're boring now

Scuba Steve wrote:Come forth?

Scuba Steve wrote:Surely he said come fourth?

Dan wrote:

Scuba Steve wrote:Surely he said come fourth?

No. Moses said come forth.

It's a play on words, silly.

VivaRonaldo wrote:People rate him highly because hes never moaning, constantly has an injury hit squad, low transfer budget (if any) but gets Everton to perform consistantly every year. Imo hes a very underrated manager.

ricky//habana wrote:What Moyes has done is stabilise a underperforming club in the top half of the league. A club with less players, less money for players and an inability to attract players that will truly take the club forward.

But once again, RR thinks that everyone else must be wrong and he must be right.
And for the record no-one gives a shit how you value lower divisions' competitions. The Premier League currently values the Championship play-off final with £90 million and a trophy. Unbelievable how some people here actually seem to respect your opinion.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

ricky//habana wrote:What Moyes has done is stabilise a underperforming club in the top half of the league. A club with less players, less money for players and an inability to attract players that will truly take the club forward.

But once again, RR thinks that everyone else must be wrong and he must be right.
And for the record no-one gives a shit how you value lower divisions' competitions. The Premier League currently values the Championship play-off final with £90 million and a trophy. Unbelievable how some people here actually seem to respect your opinion.

And has he ever won a Championship play-off Final?

polska. wrote:

VivaRonaldo wrote:People rate him highly because hes never moaning, constantly has an injury hit squad, low transfer budget (if any) but gets Everton to perform consistantly every year. Imo hes a very underrated manager.

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