Which leagues top 4 is the strongest?

cheesy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

cheesy wrote:The answer is the Premier League without any doubt whatsoever. Some may talk about the big two of Spain, but at the end of the day, the top 4 of the Premier League has as larger amount of strength in depth.



That is something that the most avid of La Liga fans cannot deny, no matter what statistics they attempt to use to disprove my comment.

You make up a First XI from La Liga and a first XI from the Premier League, who's is better? Well this has already been done and they won the World Cup without their two best players. You make a squad of 23 and who's is better? La Liga's pretty comfortably. They have 2 of the best strikers in the world, the best winger in the world, 3 or 4 of the top 5 midfielders in the world, the 2 best defensive midfielders in the world some of the best defenders in the world, 2 of the best 3 right backs in the world, the best left back in the world and the best goalkeeper in the world. The strength in depth of RM + Barca shits on the Premier League unless you're having squads of 50 or more.

This is the major problem without the top 2 in Spain though. The rest of the upper league pales in comparison when you compare it with the Premier League.



If you were to remove the giants of Real Madrid and Barcelona from the equation, you would have a significantly weaker side in the end.



If I were to do the same with the top 2 of the Premier League, the team would still be very impressive: with Man City, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool all having top quality players.



I'm not denying that the La Liga team would still be good, but let's put it this way, it would be a team, that loses Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Casillas, Pique and many other players who play for the big two.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

cheesy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

cheesy wrote:The answer is the Premier League without any doubt whatsoever. Some may talk about the big two of Spain, but at the end of the day, the top 4 of the Premier League has as larger amount of strength in depth.



That is something that the most avid of La Liga fans cannot deny, no matter what statistics they attempt to use to disprove my comment.

You make up a First XI from La Liga and a first XI from the Premier League, who's is better? Well this has already been done and they won the World Cup without their two best players. You make a squad of 23 and who's is better? La Liga's pretty comfortably. They have 2 of the best strikers in the world, the best winger in the world, 3 or 4 of the top 5 midfielders in the world, the 2 best defensive midfielders in the world some of the best defenders in the world, 2 of the best 3 right backs in the world, the best left back in the world and the best goalkeeper in the world. The strength in depth of RM + Barca shits on the Premier League unless you're having squads of 50 or more.

This is the major problem without the top 2 in Spain though. The rest of the upper league pales in comparison when you compare it with the Premier League.



If you were to remove the giants of Real Madrid and Barcelona from the equation, you would have a significantly weaker side in the end.



If I were to do the same with the top 2 of the Premier League, the team would still be very impressive: with Man City, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool all having top quality players.



I'm not denying that the La Liga team would still be good, but let's put it this way, it would be a team, that loses Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Casillas, Pique and many other players who play for the big two.

I thought you had stopped infesting this forum with your shit opinions you fucking parasite. I saw you bitching about me getting banned for not as long as you, do you know what the reason was? Because I contribute to this forum, I am an indispensable member, and you are a cockroach who should be squashed. I hope this helps.

Now, you tell me, why would you remove the best teams from La Liga and the Premier League is you are comparing them? It is the sort of ridiculous shit I expect from you. It is like asking 'Who is better at boxing, David Haye or Wladimir Klitschko?' and then answering it 'Klitschko, but the problem with him is that he has more reach. If you cut both men's arms off David Haye would win because he has a stronger headbutt'.

ViVaRooney wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

Braad wrote:

kyro7 wrote:La Liga because it has Barca and Madrid.

I said that, but then you compare Valencia and Villareal to City and Arsenal, it's easily EPL.

If you do that it comes up as 2-2.. from 1st to fourth..

Barca > United
Madrid > Chelsea
Valencia < City
Villarreal < Arsenal

And I'd take La Liga's based on the fact Barca and Madrid are better than all four of the EPL teams.

*coughcough* man utd 2-1 barca atm

cheesy wrote:The first part of your post is completely off-topic. It removes itself from all common sense which this world possesses in the modern day, which is unfortunately not a lot.

The second part makes no sense whatsoever and if I was to describe it as anything, I would call it revolting. Why would you cut off the arms of a human being who has not negatively affected you in any way at all.

You never actually answered my point: instead straying to other, unrelated and confusing matters.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

cheesy wrote:The first part of your post is completely off-topic. It removes itself from all common sense which this world possesses in the modern day, which is unfortunately not a lot.

The second part makes no sense whatsoever and if I was to describe it as anything, I would call it revolting. Why would you cut off the arms of a human being who has not negatively affected you in any way at all.

You never actually answered my point: instead straying to other, unrelated and confusing matters.

I'm trying to help you understand why you were banned for much longer than me, I understand you have a problem with it.

Fine, swap it with 'If both competititors have their hands tied behind their back', hopefully you can understand how retarded your comparison was now.

cheesy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

cheesy wrote:The first part of your post is completely off-topic. It removes itself from all common sense which this world possesses in the modern day, which is unfortunately not a lot.

The second part makes no sense whatsoever and if I was to describe it as anything, I would call it revolting. Why would you cut off the arms of a human being who has not negatively affected you in any way at all.

You never actually answered my point: instead straying to other, unrelated and confusing matters.

I'm trying to help you understand why you were banned for much longer than me, I understand you have a problem with it.

Fine, swap it with 'If both competititors have their hands tied behind their back', hopefully you can understand how retarded your comparison was now.

I was rightfully banned and never had a problem with it. I accepted my ban with grace and I have now returned in a non-trolling manner.

fluffy_kittens wrote:I dont understand how people can say that Madrid are better then all the EPL teams, the only EPL team Madrid played last year was us and we are shit. It would be interesting to see Man U match up against Madrid. I think Man U are the 2nd best team in the world, not Madrid.

NZG wrote:

fluffy_kittens wrote:I dont understand how people can say that Madrid are better then all the EPL teams, the only EPL team Madrid played last year was us and we are shit. It would be interesting to see Man U match up against Madrid. I think Man U are the 2nd best team in the world, not Madrid.

fluffy_kittens wrote:

NZG wrote:

fluffy_kittens wrote:I dont understand how people can say that Madrid are better then all the EPL teams, the only EPL team Madrid played last year was us and we are shit. It would be interesting to see Man U match up against Madrid. I think Man U are the 2nd best team in the world, not Madrid.

Madrid lost to some shit sides last year and everytime they got a chance to prove they were as good as barca they played anti football because they were scared. All I am saying is it hard to judge them because they havent played Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, or City in a big competition yet.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

cheesy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

cheesy wrote:The answer is the Premier League without any doubt whatsoever. Some may talk about the big two of Spain, but at the end of the day, the top 4 of the Premier League has as larger amount of strength in depth.



That is something that the most avid of La Liga fans cannot deny, no matter what statistics they attempt to use to disprove my comment.

You make up a First XI from La Liga and a first XI from the Premier League, who's is better? Well this has already been done and they won the World Cup without their two best players. You make a squad of 23 and who's is better? La Liga's pretty comfortably. They have 2 of the best strikers in the world, the best winger in the world, 3 or 4 of the top 5 midfielders in the world, the 2 best defensive midfielders in the world some of the best defenders in the world, 2 of the best 3 right backs in the world, the best left back in the world and the best goalkeeper in the world. The strength in depth of RM + Barca shits on the Premier League unless you're having squads of 50 or more.

This is the major problem without the top 2 in Spain though. The rest of the upper league pales in comparison when you compare it with the Premier League.



If you were to remove the giants of Real Madrid and Barcelona from the equation, you would have a significantly weaker side in the end.



If I were to do the same with the top 2 of the Premier League, the team would still be very impressive: with Man City, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool all having top quality players.



I'm not denying that the La Liga team would still be good, but let's put it this way, it would be a team, that loses Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Casillas, Pique and many other players who play for the big two.

I thought you had stopped infesting this forum with your shit opinions you fucking parasite. I saw you bitching about me getting banned for not as long as you, do you know what the reason was? Because I contribute to this forum, I am an indispensable member, and you are a cockroach who should be squashed. I hope this helps.

Now, you tell me, why would you remove the best teams from La Liga and the Premier League is you are comparing them? It is the sort of ridiculous shit I expect from you. It is like asking 'Who is better at boxing, David Haye or Wladimir Klitschko?' and then answering it 'Klitschko, but the problem with him is that he has more reach. If you cut both men's arms off David Haye would win because he has a stronger headbutt'.

grenade187 wrote:I agree with Fluffy. Utd would probably beat Madrid. The team of last season anyway. You cant just compare starting XI's and say this team will win or that team will win.

mauro=beast wrote:

grenade187 wrote:I agree with Fluffy. Utd would probably beat Madrid. The team of last season anyway. You cant just compare starting XI's and say this team will win or that team will win.

if ur not comparing starting teams then how are you comparing them? you basically destroyed yourself with your own arguement, someone can easily say that madrid at least have registered a competitive win against barcelona while man u had that chance as well but didnt do it. that is surely the only barometer to compare if your not comparing personell which would be ridiculous to just dismiss as well

grenade187 wrote:

mauro=beast wrote:

grenade187 wrote:I agree with Fluffy. Utd would probably beat Madrid. The team of last season anyway. You cant just compare starting XI's and say this team will win or that team will win.

if ur not comparing starting teams then how are you comparing them? you basically destroyed yourself with your own arguement, someone can easily say that madrid at least have registered a competitive win against barcelona while man u had that chance as well but didnt do it. that is surely the only barometer to compare if your not comparing personell which would be ridiculous to just dismiss as well

My friend you have to consider tactics as well. I don't quite understand what you mean by registering a competitive win against Barca?
Arsenal and Hercules for example have done this so by using your logic does this mean these 2 teams are superior to Man United ? No.

At the end of the day there's no guaranteed outcome so we can only assume but my point being you cant just compare starting xi's like some people on here like to do there's other factors.

NiTRO wrote:La Liga and to the ones saying Man U is better than Real....

cheesy wrote:

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

cheesy wrote:The answer is the Premier League without any doubt whatsoever. Some may talk about the big two of Spain, but at the end of the day, the top 4 of the Premier League has as larger amount of strength in depth.



That is something that the most avid of La Liga fans cannot deny, no matter what statistics they attempt to use to disprove my comment.

You make up a First XI from La Liga and a first XI from the Premier League, who's is better? Well this has already been done and they won the World Cup without their two best players. You make a squad of 23 and who's is better? La Liga's pretty comfortably. They have 2 of the best strikers in the world, the best winger in the world, 3 or 4 of the top 5 midfielders in the world, the 2 best defensive midfielders in the world some of the best defenders in the world, 2 of the best 3 right backs in the world, the best left back in the world and the best goalkeeper in the world. The strength in depth of RM + Barca shits on the Premier League unless you're having squads of 50 or more.

This is the major problem without the top 2 in Spain though. The rest of the upper league pales in comparison when you compare it with the Premier League.



If you were to remove the giants of Real Madrid and Barcelona from the equation, you would have a significantly weaker side in the end.



If I were to do the same with the top 2 of the Premier League, the team would still be very impressive: with Man City, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool all having top quality players.



I'm not denying that the La Liga team would still be good, but let's put it this way, it would be a team, that loses Messi, Ronaldo, Xavi, Iniesta, Villa, Casillas, Pique and many other players who play for the big two.