Best player of all time

I don't see how Henry outperformed Ronaldo. Every tournament they took part in Ronaldo shined more than Henry. In all three world cups Henry didn't match Ronaldo.

Lol Luiz Ronaldo and Henry not comparable? Same age and for years of their careers Henry was considered to be better player and the best striker on the planet. Ronaldo was better until they got to the age of 22 and Henry smashed it every year after.

Considered to be better by who? Retard Sky pundits who think Rooney > Messi?

Shagger why cant you have a friendly discussion without calling somebody a clown or whatever just because they disagree with you ? And Ronaldo v Henry has been one of the biggest comparison debates in football recently if somebody disagrees Ronaldo was superior ability wise they can't be trusted to rate any player ?

Wow

Handpicking? Muthafucka you're handpicking by choosing something that doesn't have a measurable metric. I am talking about tangible, cold hard facts and you bring up ability. The exchange between RR and myself was about the players results on the field and here you're buster ass comes bringing up ability. Hell if you want to use ability (skill sets, etc) then Henry is still shitting on Cristiano Ronaldo.

Once again you prove how much of an ass you are and I seriously don't see the point in talking football with you because you obviously A) don't know shit, or B) feel the need to fling petty insults when you have no argument or bring in irrelevant shit that wasn't even being included in the original discussion.

I'm done with you.

AriseForLife wrote:Handpicking? Muthafucka you're handpicking by choosing something that doesn't have a measurable metric. I am talking about tangible, cold hard facts and you bring up ability. The exchange between RR and myself was about the players results on the field and here you're buster ass comes bringing up ability. Hell if you want to use ability (skill sets, etc) then Henry is still shitting on Cristiano Ronaldo.

End of.

Bring up ability? Look back, this whole thing started because I said Cristiano is a better player based on ability.

Chris wrote:Lol Luiz Ronaldo and Henry not comparable? Same age and for years of their careers Henry was considered to be better player and the best striker on the planet. Ronaldo was better until they got to the age of 22 and Henry smashed it every year after.

what? Ronaldo awards say other wise. When they are 22, Ronaldo hasn't even entered the 2002 WC. And no one...no fucking player in the world was better than Ronaldo in 2002.

Carrick is shit.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Chris wrote:Lol Luiz Ronaldo and Henry not comparable? Same age and for years of their careers Henry was considered to be better player and the best striker on the planet. Ronaldo was better until they got to the age of 22 and Henry smashed it every year after.

what? Ronaldo awards say other wise. When they are 22, Ronaldo hasn't even entered the 2002 WC. And no one...no fucking player in the world was better than Ronaldo in 2002.

Zidane

Fine Shagger wrote:Bring up ability? Look back, this whole thing started because I said Cristiano is a better player based on ability.

You didn't bring up ability until I had already replied to you twice.

kyro7 wrote:Carrick is shit.

Fletcher > Carrick

grenade187 wrote:Shagger why cant you have a friendly discussion without calling somebody a clown or whatever just because they disagree with you ? And Ronaldo v Henry has been one of the biggest comparison debates in football recently if somebody disagrees Ronaldo was superior ability wise they can't be trusted to rate any player ?

Wow

It has? To say it's a minority view that Henry > Ronaldo would be being extremely kind.

AriseForLife wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Bring up ability? Look back, this whole thing started because I said Cristiano is a better player based on ability.

You didn't bring up ability until I had already replied to you twice.

See below:

Fine Shagger wrote:How can anyone seriously rate Henry higher than Ronaldo?

He's a great player and one of the best players to play in the Premiership but Ronaldo is THE best to have played there.

grenade187 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Chris wrote:Lol Luiz Ronaldo and Henry not comparable? Same age and for years of their careers Henry was considered to be better player and the best striker on the planet. Ronaldo was better until they got to the age of 22 and Henry smashed it every year after.

what? Ronaldo awards say other wise. When they are 22, Ronaldo hasn't even entered the 2002 WC. And no one...no fucking player in the world was better than Ronaldo in 2002.

Zidane

No Ronaldo > Zidane in 02.

Fine Shagger wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Bring up ability? Look back, this whole thing started because I said Cristiano is a better player based on ability.

You didn't bring up ability until I had already replied to you twice.

See below:

Fine Shagger wrote:How can anyone seriously rate Henry higher than Ronaldo?

He's a great player and one of the best players to play in the Premiership but Ronaldo is THE best to have played there.

What part of that statement aludes to you talking about ability in comparison? Even the bold part is iffy is that is what you're trying to imply in your response.

Fine Shagger wrote:Considered to be better by who? Retard Sky pundits who think Rooney > Messi?

By football fans worldwide, did you live under a rock?

Why pretend something is obvious? When Ronaldo and Henry were on the same pitch twice in a month Henry scored an amazing goal, Luiz Ronaldo did nothing but miss and that other guy Zidane couldn't do much to help him either. Yeh it's 2 games but proves my point on a game to game basis any of them could be just as fantastic as another.

Ronaldo only passed Henry once he came to Real. Henry for Arsenal > Ronaldo for Man Utd.

AriseForLife wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Bring up ability? Look back, this whole thing started because I said Cristiano is a better player based on ability.

You didn't bring up ability until I had already replied to you twice.

See below:

Fine Shagger wrote:How can anyone seriously rate Henry higher than Ronaldo?

He's a great player and one of the best players to play in the Premiership but Ronaldo is THE best to have played there.

What part of that statement aludes to you talking about ability in comparison?

The best player to have played in a league = best ability, no?

I would've said Cristiano had a better Premiership career if I meant to say he had a better Premiership career.

Fine Shagger wrote:

grenade187 wrote:Shagger why cant you have a friendly discussion without calling somebody a clown or whatever just because they disagree with you ? And Ronaldo v Henry has been one of the biggest comparison debates in football recently if somebody disagrees Ronaldo was superior ability wise they can't be trusted to rate any player ?

Wow

It has? To say it's a minority view that Henry > Ronaldo would be being extremely kind.

Yes it tends to be that the majority prefers Ronaldo but it depends on the person and how they rate the players and how they see their ability. The point is that they are both very comparable people would not be comparing them if it was as clear as daylight that Ronaldo is superior like you claim.

grenade187 wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

grenade187 wrote:Shagger why cant you have a friendly discussion without calling somebody a clown or whatever just because they disagree with you ? And Ronaldo v Henry has been one of the biggest comparison debates in football recently if somebody disagrees Ronaldo was superior ability wise they can't be trusted to rate any player ?

Wow

It has? To say it's a minority view that Henry > Ronaldo would be being extremely kind.

Yes it tends to be that the majority prefers Ronaldo but it depends on the person and how they rate the players and how they see their ability. The point is that they are both very comparable people would not be comparing them if it was as clear as daylight that Ronaldo is superior like you claim.

If you had said Henry had a better career than Ronaldo I'd be right behind you on this.

Better ability wise though? That is an extremely bold claim, one I can't agree with nor see the logic behind at all.

Chris wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Considered to be better by who? Retard Sky pundits who think Rooney > Messi?

By football fans worldwide, did you live under a rock?

Why pretend something is obvious? When Ronaldo and Henry were on the same pitch twice in a month Henry scored an amazing goal, Luiz Ronaldo did nothing but miss and that other guy Zidane couldn't do much to help him either. Yeh it's 2 games but proves my point on a game to game basis any of them could be just as fantastic as another.

What game was this?

When Henry and Ronaldo where in the same Tournament, ronaldo won golden player and boot. Also won the WC. Henry didn't even score.

Jamie you got done by Scott earlier and now you're getting done by Arise.

Fine Shagger wrote:The best player to have played in a league = best ability, no?

I would've said Cristiano had a better Premiership career if I meant to say he had a better Premiership career.

Not even close. Saying someone is the best to have played in the league does not mean ability and I don't think anyone would assume you meant ability by making that statement.

Fine Shagger wrote:If you had said Henry had a better career than Ronaldo I'd be right behind you on this.

Better ability wise though? That is an extremely bold claim, one I can't agree with nor see the logic behind at all.

How exactly is it a bold claim?

AriseForLife wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:The best player to have played in a league = best ability, no?

I would've said Cristiano had a better Premiership career if I meant to say he had a better Premiership career.

Not even close. Saying someone is the best to have played in the league does not mean ability and I don't think anyone would assume you meant ability by making that statement.

Bullshit, if Messi played 1 game in the Finland league and I said he's the best player to have played there my statement would be 100% correct.

I don't know why I bother.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Chris wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Considered to be better by who? Retard Sky pundits who think Rooney > Messi?

By football fans worldwide, did you live under a rock?

Why pretend something is obvious? When Ronaldo and Henry were on the same pitch twice in a month Henry scored an amazing goal, Luiz Ronaldo did nothing but miss and that other guy Zidane couldn't do much to help him either. Yeh it's 2 games but proves my point on a game to game basis any of them could be just as fantastic as another.

What game was this?

When Henry and Ronaldo where in the same Tournament, ronaldo won golden player and boot. Also won the WC. Henry didn't even score.

Arsenal v Galacticos in the CL.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Chris wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Considered to be better by who? Retard Sky pundits who think Rooney > Messi?

By football fans worldwide, did you live under a rock?

Why pretend something is obvious? When Ronaldo and Henry were on the same pitch twice in a month Henry scored an amazing goal, Luiz Ronaldo did nothing but miss and that other guy Zidane couldn't do much to help him either. Yeh it's 2 games but proves my point on a game to game basis any of them could be just as fantastic as another.

What game was this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXwiyARW1CE

If you want to judge Ronaldo at his best ability Chris why use Real Madrid? His best season was at Barcelona, after that Inter.

By the time he had moved to Real Madrid he was already affected by injuries.

chiboygeorge wrote:What game was this?

He's talking about the Champions League meeting with Arsenal and Madrid, when Henry scored in Madrid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw_CK2IcxkU