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    Would you have stopped the ball with your hands?

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    Post by Lux Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:00 am

    You can't say "I'd throw my body in" as it just wouldn't have worked.

    Fuck defeat, I'd take the sending off and win. It's not cheating, cheating is match fixing, playing 12 men instead of 11 etc......handling the ball is just an offence like a foul.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:04 am

    We putting our self in the same situation as Suarez so it ends up with the other team missing that penalty you conceded? shifty
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    Post by El Jefe Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:11 am

    It's all well and good sitting here now saying "no, I would have let it go in instead", but people forget, he had literally no time to think anything through. It was instinct. Simple as that, I would have done the same.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:14 am

    Jay.Davies11 wrote:It's all well and good sitting here now saying "no, I would have let it go in instead", but people forget, he had literally no time to think anything through. It was instinct. Simple as that, I would have done the same.

    His instincts tell him to cheat - that just about sums him up as a person doesn't it.
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    Post by Cadbury Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:17 am

    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:
    luke. wrote:IF it was the only way..


    Suarez could of chested it/headed it if he was a superhero like Fernando 'i have not scored for chelsea' Torres

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    Post by Royal Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:19 am

    Jay.Davies11 wrote:It's all well and good sitting here now saying "no, I would have let it go in instead", but people forget, he had literally no time to think anything through. It was instinct. Simple as that, I would have done the same.
    Not everyone would have the same instinct to go for it with their hands though, so it's not as if it was either handball or let it go in. My instinct would be to use my head.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:24 am

    Lux wrote:You can't say "I'd throw my body in" as it just wouldn't have worked.

    Fuck defeat, I'd take the sending off and win. It's not cheating, cheating is match fixing, playing 12 men instead of 11 etc......handling the ball is just an offence like a foul.

    Body, header...
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    Post by Lux Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:35 am

    Fonseca wrote:Body, header...

    If his body/head was where his hand was then sure.....

    It was a split second save, he didn't have time to header/body it.
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    Post by Marvin Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:38 am

    Royal wrote:
    Jay.Davies11 wrote:It's all well and good sitting here now saying "no, I would have let it go in instead", but people forget, he had literally no time to think anything through. It was instinct. Simple as that, I would have done the same.
    Not everyone would have the same instinct to go for it with their hands though, so it's not as if it was either handball or let it go in. My instinct would be to use my head.
    This.

    Don't know why people assume everyone thinks the same way.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:29 am

    Suarez is a player who must win at all costs, and is known for diving etc. when his team is loosing.

    I don't blame him at all, I would've done the same, and Suarez with his winning mentality only needed a split half second to do what he needed to do.

    The ball was going in, no way he could've positioned himself to get it, with his head or anything. One may question his reaction to use his hands, as being a footballer that'd be rather awkward/strange, but you have to remember that he saw the ball coming and most probably would've realized his only chance was to use his hands.

    Plus the other guy in the net with him was trying to get a hand to it as well, Laughing So it's not just Suarez is a cheating cunt, we now have two people who would've handed it in the few split seconds they had to recognize what was happening, that's enough examples for me to guess that is how the brain would read the situation and react, and that the people who've voted no probably would've done the same anyway.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:30 am

    Dawson says yes.
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    Post by Ricardo Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:51 am

    Scott wrote:People forget that by handling the ball on the line, you get sent off, miss the next match and concede a penalty. It's not like you get away with it 100 percent.
    Exactly. You don't "get away with it" at all tbf.
    And fuck yes, especially in international football.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:05 am

    No.

    I mostly likely wouldn't think of handling the ball in such a quick situation. I'd naturally try to head it out. Suarez is still a dick for cheating and I think FIFA should consider changing the rule for such instances. Maybe automatically award a goal if denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity within 12 yards of the goal.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:12 am

    100% and I have handled on the line before. Will do it again if the need for it arises. No point in just letting it go in. 'Take one for the team' as the saying goes.
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    Post by Dean Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:15 am

    ahlycotc wrote:No.

    I mostly likely wouldn't think of handling the ball in such a quick situation. I'd naturally try to head it out. Suarez is still a dick for cheating and I think FIFA should consider changing the rule for such instances. Maybe automatically award a goal if denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity within 12 yards of the goal.

    No that's just wrong. If the ball doesn't go in the goal, it's not a goal. The day you start awarding goals that are not even past the line, is the day football dies.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:25 am

    ahlycotc wrote:No.

    I mostly likely wouldn't think of handling the ball in such a quick situation. I'd naturally try to head it out. Suarez is still a dick for cheating and I think FIFA should consider changing the rule for such instances. Maybe automatically award a goal if denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity within 12 yards of the goal.
    What the fuck are you on about?

    SUAREZ AND URUGUAY GOT PUNISHED, DO YOU NOT REMEMBER?

    Suarez got red carded and missed the next match, while Uruguay had to concede a penalty.

    You might as well award a goal for every bad tackle or handled ball anywhere on the pitch and turn this into American football while we are at it.
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    Post by Cadbury Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:27 am

    ahlycotc wrote:No.

    I mostly likely wouldn't think of handling the ball in such a quick situation. I'd naturally try to head it out. Suarez is still a dick for cheating and I think FIFA should consider changing the rule for such instances. Maybe automatically award a goal if denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity within 12 yards of the goal.

    No.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:02 am

    polska. wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:No.

    I mostly likely wouldn't think of handling the ball in such a quick situation. I'd naturally try to head it out. Suarez is still a dick for cheating and I think FIFA should consider changing the rule for such instances. Maybe automatically award a goal if denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity within 12 yards of the goal.
    What the fuck are you on about?

    SUAREZ AND URUGUAY GOT PUNISHED, DO YOU NOT REMEMBER?

    Suarez got red carded and missed the next match, while Uruguay had to concede a penalty.

    You might as well award a goal for every bad tackle or handled ball anywhere on the pitch and turn this into American football while we are at it.

    That's hardly a punishment. The ball was going in 100%. It's not fair to have to take a shot 12 yards back with the possibility of missing. If Suarez and Uruguay had the same opportunity, they would go with the red card and penalty every single time.

    There is a reason I said award a goal within 12 yards, because penalty kicks are 12 yards away from goal. Taking the ball back further is not a punishment for the defending team, but actually a better option for the defending team. Also notice I said this rule would only apply to denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity, not just any foul.
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    Post by Lux Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:04 am

    It's a better option for the defending team, except that they lose a player.

    Sure, that doesn't mean much in injury time 2nd half of extra time....but you can't be changing rules for different parts of the match.

    If you say "goal if it's an obvious goal" then you're going to have controversy when refs do/don't give a goal when people thought it was/wasn't a definite goal.
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:07 am

    Lux wrote:It's a better option for the defending team, except that they lose a player.

    Sure, that doesn't mean much in injury time 2nd half of extra time....but you can't be changing rules for different parts of the match.

    If you say "goal if it's an obvious goal" then you're going to have controversy when refs do/don't give a goal when people thought it was/wasn't a definite goal.

    You have controversy with any referee decisions anyways, which brings me to the second point: video replay challenges. Laughing
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    Post by SBSP Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:09 am

    I've never been in the situation, and I never will be, so there's no way for me to know. Neutral
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    Post by Lux Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:09 am

    ahlycotc wrote:You have controversy with any referee decisions anyways, which brings me to the second point: video replay challenges. Laughing

    Can't be having video replay challenges, it takes too long.

    Would be better to just get technology that allows officials to get the decision right 100% of the time shifty
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    Post by Grenade Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:12 am

    No because if we were not good enough to win I would just accept that and not cheat the better team out. A cheated victory is shit.
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    Post by SBSP Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:14 am

    I want to say no, but it's very easy to truly believe that but still block it as a reaction.

    Not 100% related, but I don't think Suarez is a cunt because of this. I think he's a cunt because of how much he bigged it up in the media. Neutral
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:14 am

    SBSP wrote:I've never been in the situation, and I never will be, so there's no way for me to know. Neutral

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    ahlycotc wrote:You have controversy with any referee decisions anyways, which brings me to the second point: video replay challenges. Laughing

    Can't be having video replay challenges, it takes too long.

    Would be better to just get technology that allows officials to get the decision right 100% of the time shifty

    It would take a few seconds to look at a replay and come up with a decision (especially if you can show it on the screen in the stadium). It would take the same amount of time it takes the referee to tell the players to shut up after they surround him or get booked. If push comes to shove, add the time back on at the end of the half. No technology other than video replay can get a decision 100% correct anyways.
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    Post by Lux Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:14 am

    Am I the only one who doesn't think that a hand ball on the line is cheating? shifty

    It's not exactly the same as......match fixing/fielding 12 players etc......?
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    Post by SBSP Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:15 am

    ahlycotc wrote:
    SBSP wrote:I've never been in the situation, and I never will be, so there's no way for me to know. Neutral

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    Post by ayvee1 Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:17 am

    Lux wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't think that a hand ball on the line is cheating? shifty

    It's not exactly the same as......match fixing/fielding 12 players etc......?
    It's cheating if it's intentional. Knowingly and willingly breaking the rules for the benefit of you or your team is cheating IMO.
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    Post by Lux Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:17 am

    ahlycotc wrote:It would take a few seconds to look at a replay and come up with a decision (especially if you can show it on the screen in the stadium). It would take the same amount of time it takes the referee to tell the players to shut up after they surround him or get booked. If push comes to shove, add the time back on at the end of the half. No technology other than video replay can get a decision 100% correct anyways.

    Maybe, though tbh I think they need to cut out the time where refs are telling players to shut up too Laughing

    Especially if a goalkeeper time wastes and they walk over just to talk to him Neutral
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    Post by Guest Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:18 am

    Lux wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't think that a hand ball on the line is cheating? shifty

    It's not exactly the same as......match fixing/fielding 12 players etc......?

    Any intentional handball is cheating. Neutral

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