Yes. I'm saying they cannot be compared because the style of play is completely different in the PL. They are allowed to play like that in la liga, but won't in England. Hence, I'm saying you can't really compare them.James ♠ wrote:
Does this post have anything to do with this thread? I'm not discussing the game or any players talent except Messis and maybe Walcotts.
(polskaGOLA) wrote:Jameswrote:Dena, thanks for staying on topic.
Polska, I am not comparing formations. I am not comparing styles of play. This is simply would Barcelona be as succesful without Messi and would Arsenal be more succesful with a Messi in their team.
When you stop calling Arsenal "we" that is when you'll stop being called a glory hunter you gimp.
And if Poland is so good what the fuck are you lot doing over here??
1st line - Well obvi-fucking-ously Arsenal would be better with Messi. Barcelona would learn to cope without him, though may take some time to get the new formation in sync. Still if you aren't comparing all those things, then why even compare?
2nd line - I hardly gloryhunt Arsenal. I follow them and am a 'fan' of Wenger and the team.
3rd line - Higher wages. When wages in Poland reach par with Western Europe we will come back because Poland is awesome like that.
Fanatic wrote:Would Barca be as sucessful without Messi? Possibly, they have absolute immense quality throughout the team even without Messi.
Would Arsenal be more succesful with a Messi in their team? Of course, Messi is the best player on the earth's surface so obviously someone like Messi can only better the team.
Again, hypothetically I say yes. There's possibly only a few players who could change a match on it's head and Arsenal don't have many of them so maybe that's what they have needed?James ♠ wrote:Fanatic wrote:Would Barca be as sucessful without Messi? Possibly, they have absolute immense quality throughout the team even without Messi.
Would Arsenal be more succesful with a Messi in their team? Of course, Messi is the best player on the earth's surface so obviously someone like Messi can only better the team.
Obvious they would be better but more succesful? Would they have won more trophies?
James(polskaGOLA) wrote:James
Polska, I am not comparing formations. I am not comparing styles of play. This is simply would Barcelona be as succesful without Messi and would Arsenal be more succesful with a Messi in their team.
When you stop calling Arsenal "we" that is when you'll stop being called a glory hunter you gimp.
And if Poland is so good what the fuck are you lot doing over here??
1st line - Well obvi-fucking-ously Arsenal would be better with Messi. Barcelona would learn to cope without him, though may take some time to get the new formation in sync. Still if you aren't comparing all those things, then why even compare?
2nd line - I hardly gloryhunt Arsenal. I follow them and am a 'fan' of Wenger and the team.
3rd line - Higher wages. When wages in Poland reach par with Western Europe we will come back because Poland is awesome like that.
1st line - Again it is obvious they would be better. But that isn't the question, the question is WOULD THEY BE MORE SUCCESFUL THAN CURRENTLY? That means actually winning trophies.
2nd line - You do glory hunt.
3rd line - So obvious UK is better. Its funny the Polish imigrate Hull which is highest unemployed place in England. Polish thick as well huh.
dena wrote:No, Barcelona pass better than Arsenal, Barcelona press better than Arsenal, Barcelona defend better than Arsenal. Barcelona are better than Arsenal.
Their players are much more experienced as well.mauro=beast wrote:dena wrote:No, Barcelona pass better than Arsenal, Barcelona press better than Arsenal, Barcelona defend better than Arsenal. Barcelona are better than Arsenal.
this.
every position that barcelona has is superior player to every arsenal player
take away messi, barcelona is still much too superior
Nikidinho wrote:Their players are much more experienced as well.mauro=beast wrote:dena wrote:No, Barcelona pass better than Arsenal, Barcelona press better than Arsenal, Barcelona defend better than Arsenal. Barcelona are better than Arsenal.
this.
every position that barcelona has is superior player to every arsenal player
take away messi, barcelona is still much too superior
Put put them in the PL. Then see how fast their bravado evaporates. They won't be able to pull off such slick passes with someone lunging at them every few seconds. Also, put Arsenal in la liga. Our players wont get injured as much and we'd be dominating.
Nikidinho wrote:Their players are much more experienced as well.mauro=beast wrote:dena wrote:No, Barcelona pass better than Arsenal, Barcelona press better than Arsenal, Barcelona defend better than Arsenal. Barcelona are better than Arsenal.
this.
every position that barcelona has is superior player to every arsenal player
take away messi, barcelona is still much too superior
Put put them in the PL. Then see how fast their bravado evaporates. They won't be able to pull off such slick passes with someone lunging at them every few seconds. Also, put Arsenal in la liga. Our players wont get injured as much and we'd be dominating.
Right. Because at one point of time Barcelona have had 7 first team members out with leg breaksmauro=beast wrote:Nikidinho wrote:Their players are much more experienced as well.mauro=beast wrote:dena wrote:No, Barcelona pass better than Arsenal, Barcelona press better than Arsenal, Barcelona defend better than Arsenal. Barcelona are better than Arsenal.
this.
every position that barcelona has is superior player to every arsenal player
take away messi, barcelona is still much too superior
Put put them in the PL. Then see how fast their bravado evaporates. They won't be able to pull off such slick passes with someone lunging at them every few seconds. Also, put Arsenal in la liga. Our players wont get injured as much and we'd be dominating.
ahhh alas typical british "they cant do that against our teams cos we will kick em in the shins"
is strange you know, i would of thought those people watching matches of barcelona x bilbao, osasuna etc, extremely physical teams who always kicking barcelona but barcelona still destroy those guys. but im sure to those epl fanatics, bilbao is nothing compared to the might of wolverhampton
Nikidinho wrote:Right. Because at one point of time Barcelona have had 7 first team members out with leg breaksmauro=beast wrote:Nikidinho wrote:Their players are much more experienced as well.mauro=beast wrote:dena wrote:No, Barcelona pass better than Arsenal, Barcelona press better than Arsenal, Barcelona defend better than Arsenal. Barcelona are better than Arsenal.
this.
every position that barcelona has is superior player to every arsenal player
take away messi, barcelona is still much too superior
Put put them in the PL. Then see how fast their bravado evaporates. They won't be able to pull off such slick passes with someone lunging at them every few seconds. Also, put Arsenal in la liga. Our players wont get injured as much and we'd be dominating.
ahhh alas typical british "they cant do that against our teams cos we will kick em in the shins"
is strange you know, i would of thought those people watching matches of barcelona x bilbao, osasuna etc, extremely physical teams who always kicking barcelona but barcelona still destroy those guys. but im sure to those epl fanatics, bilbao is nothing compared to the might of wolverhampton
worst question everJames ♠ wrote:Polska, I am not comparing formations. I am not comparing styles of play. This is simply would Barcelona be as succesful without Messi and would Arsenal be more succesful with a Messi in their team.
When you stop calling Arsenal "we" that is when you'll stop being called a glory hunter you gimp.
And if Poland is so good what the fuck are you lot doing over here??
dena wrote:Would Walcott start if they swapped? Afellay has looked quite good.
I remember Barce having their full team besides Iniesta when they visited the Emirates and we had half our team out and a shit keeper.Zzonked wrote:
Is that why Barca beat Arsenal last year?
(polskaGOLA) wrote:James ♠ wrote:Dena, thanks for staying on topic.
Polska, I am not comparing formations. I am not comparing styles of play. This is simply would Barcelona be as succesful without Messi and would Arsenal be more succesful with a Messi in their team.
When you stop calling Arsenal "we" that is when you'll stop being called a glory hunter you gimp.
And if Poland is so good what the fuck are you lot doing over here??
2nd line - I hardly gloryhunt Arsenal. I follow them and am a 'fan' of Wenger and the team.
James ♠ wrote:I didn't say would they be better, I said more succesful.
menalawyerguy wrote:James ♠ wrote:I didn't say would they be better, I said more succesful.
So you're question is would Arsenal be more succesful with Messi?
menalawyerguy wrote:I know one thing: they wouldn't be less succesful.
dena wrote:No, Barcelona pass better than Arsenal, Barcelona press better than Arsenal, Barcelona defend better than Arsenal. Barcelona are better than Arsenal.
James ♠ wrote:menalawyerguy wrote:James ♠ wrote:I didn't say would they be better, I said more succesful.
So you're question is would Arsenal be more succesful with Messi?
And would Barcelona be as succesful without Messi.
Nikidinho wrote:I remember Barce having their full team besides Iniesta when they visited the Emirates and we had half our team out and a shit keeper.Zzonked wrote:
Is that why Barca beat Arsenal last year?
