For example if a player played a full season in each of the league's through his prime which would he score most in?
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Easiest League to score goals in?
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Which is the easiest league to score goals in?
For example if a player played a full season in each of the league's through his prime which would he score most in?
For example if a player played a full season in each of the league's through his prime which would he score most in?
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Looking at it I would put it in this order...
Spanish league
Italian league
English league
The reason I put English as the hardest is that there is a lot of teams here that tend to focus on defences. Birmingham, Stoke, Liverpool, Everton etc. Whereas in Spain, teams tend to play open no matter who they play against. And Italy fits in between them both as it seems alot of goals do get scored in that league from just looking at results.
Spanish league
Italian league
English league
The reason I put English as the hardest is that there is a lot of teams here that tend to focus on defences. Birmingham, Stoke, Liverpool, Everton etc. Whereas in Spain, teams tend to play open no matter who they play against. And Italy fits in between them both as it seems alot of goals do get scored in that league from just looking at results.
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Depends on the player obviously.
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Fine Shagger wrote:Depends on the player obviously.
Nah, I reckon any type would do well in La Liga. The only one I thought would struggle are target men but the games are that open that wingers would have loads of space to put crosses in pretty much all of the time.
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James wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Depends on the player obviously.
Nah, I reckon any type would do well in La Liga. The only one I thought would struggle are target men but the games are that open that wingers would have loads of space to put crosses in pretty much all of the time.
Torres disagrees.
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English League is second. Italian is the hardest to score in.
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Fine Shagger wrote:James wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Depends on the player obviously.
Nah, I reckon any type would do well in La Liga. The only one I thought would struggle are target men but the games are that open that wingers would have loads of space to put crosses in pretty much all of the time.
Torres disagrees.
Torres wasn't in his prime when he played for Atletico.
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Fine Shagger wrote:James wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Depends on the player obviously.
Nah, I reckon any type would do well in La Liga. The only one I thought would struggle are target men but the games are that open that wingers would have loads of space to put crosses in pretty much all of the time.
Torres disagrees.
Torres didn't have the same set up at at Atletico. He always dropped deep. Irrelevant.
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“The central defenders are usually big, strong, aggressive lads. I guess it is probably because of these characteristics that the majority think they can solve problems by getting tough with me.
“But the truth is most of them lack defensive positioning as a result of their reliance on strength and aggression and leave so much space for you to take advantage of.”
“But the truth is most of them lack defensive positioning as a result of their reliance on strength and aggression and leave so much space for you to take advantage of.”
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I wouldn't listen to a word that comes out of that cunts mouth.
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Still think Torres would score just as much if not more in La Liga.
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Why?
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Well, La Liga.
But it's not "easy" to score in any of those leagues.
But it's not "easy" to score in any of those leagues.
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Fine Shagger wrote:Why?
With it being so open. Torres would get even more space then he can create in England. Even if defenders positioning isn't that great in England, they are still pretty close together so if he does manage to control the ball then there is still a good chance a defender will throw his body in the way.
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James ♠ wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Why?
With it being so open. Torres would get even more space then he can create in England. Even if defenders positioning isn't that great in England, they are still pretty close together so if he does manage to control the ball then there is still a good chance a defender will throw his body in the way.
Torres scores more goals in English football because it's more direct. He wouldn't score as much in La Liga because despite being Spanish he doesn't suit the more controlled build up.
The same would be true for the likes of Darren Bent, which is what I mean about depending on the player.
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Fine Shagger wrote:James ♠ wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Why?
With it being so open. Torres would get even more space then he can create in England. Even if defenders positioning isn't that great in England, they are still pretty close together so if he does manage to control the ball then there is still a good chance a defender will throw his body in the way.
Torres scores more goals in English football because it's more direct. He wouldn't score as much in La Liga because despite being Spanish he doesn't suit the more controlled build up.
The same would be true for the likes of Darren Bent, which is what I mean about depending on the player.
I disagree, I think it depends on the players he is playing with. If he is expected to contribute to the build up then I agree. But if he is there solely to put the ball in the back of the net then I don't think it matters how the team plays providing they create chances.
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Almost an impossible question given how many variables there are, Jaime explained it pretty well with Fernando Torres who is more of a direct, pacy, striker than a build up/combo striker like David Villa. Going by the GPG and total goals over the past few years, Spain and England are ahead of Italy, but it's hard to differentiate between the former, they say Spain is more open, and generally I think that's true, but that doesnt always equal goals. Espanyol - Madrid was open last night but finished 1-0.
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probably epl because some of those defences of the lower teams like wigan, west brom, etc are really terrible surely second division level defences at least in terms of organizations
la liga also has many goals in it but the style of play allows for it, research has shown that teams under constant attacking pressure in own half pressure are liable and eventually give away goals and this suit spanish style where most teams keep ball and build attacks after multiple passes in opposing half
obviously stats show that serie a has least goals, the defences are always good, tight, and press very quick in own half. like every league there are some terrible team but i think overall the defences in serie a are beastly
la liga also has many goals in it but the style of play allows for it, research has shown that teams under constant attacking pressure in own half pressure are liable and eventually give away goals and this suit spanish style where most teams keep ball and build attacks after multiple passes in opposing half
obviously stats show that serie a has least goals, the defences are always good, tight, and press very quick in own half. like every league there are some terrible team but i think overall the defences in serie a are beastly
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Do Barcelona's defence ever get pummelled having to defend for their lives? Like sometimes Man United, Chelsea and City do and come through.
I've never seen a team have them on the back foot for large amounts of a game due to their midfield being so good. People say they have a great defence, one of the best in the world but would they look so good with an average midfield in front of them and have the grit to stay in a game being on the back foot constantly?
I've never seen a team have them on the back foot for large amounts of a game due to their midfield being so good. People say they have a great defence, one of the best in the world but would they look so good with an average midfield in front of them and have the grit to stay in a game being on the back foot constantly?
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The-Reporter wrote:Do Barcelona's defence ever get pummelled having to defend for their lives? Like sometimes Man United, Chelsea and City do and come through.
I've never seen a team have them on the back foot for large amounts of a game due to their midfield being so good. People say they have a great defence, one of the best in the world but would they look so good with an average midfield in front of them and have the grit to stay in a game being on the back foot constantly?
Well, Pique and Puyol have shown that they are really shut down CBs, Abidal has always been strong, Alves is the most defensively suspect but the defending as a team helps him out and he's a decent defender in his own right.
As for the average midfield, I don't know, it's hard to answer questions like that because this is Barcelona's system, high line, high midfield pressing, all of that, and that helps out the defense because the other club have no time to do a thing.
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lol....puyol has been at barcelona for entire career, i nth high times, and in the low times, he has proven not only in barcelona but international that he is pure brilliance. i do not know how you can question him
to say he and pique is not test enough in defence is just laughable and just a cop out
abidal proved with marseille that he was world class, u think these guys would just automatically forget how to defend if they were in a lesser team?
plenty of times barcelona defence has defended well when they are challenged
to say he and pique is not test enough in defence is just laughable and just a cop out
abidal proved with marseille that he was world class, u think these guys would just automatically forget how to defend if they were in a lesser team?
plenty of times barcelona defence has defended well when they are challenged
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Well Ibrahimovic has done pretty well in two of those Leagues, the other one he's too scared to play in
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It was actually with Lyon where he showed his class but yh, he is brilliant. Always hated when he was pointed out as the "weak link" in the defence which is definitely far from the truth. Fortunately, he gets the praise which he rightly deserves now as he has been a rock for Barca in recent times.mauro=beast wrote:
abidal proved with marseille that he was world class, u think these guys would just automatically forget how to defend if they were in a lesser team?
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Fanatic wrote:It was actually with Lyon where he showed his class but yh, he is brilliant. Always hated when he was pointed out as the "weak link" in the defence which is definitely far from the truth. Fortunately, he gets the praise which he rightly deserves now as he has been a rock for Barca in recent times.mauro=beast wrote:
abidal proved with marseille that he was world class, u think these guys would just automatically forget how to defend if they were in a lesser team?
aaaaaa sorry about that. is 1:30am right now and i was also posting on bigsoccer about gallas because some noobs is saying he was a nobody before he joining chelsea
and is true about abidal, he is a pure brillaince player
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Obviously it's all relevant. Like if you were a striker like Villa you'd pretty much get 5 chances at goal a game, but then again Ibra didn't really excel at Barcalona.
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Sebastien Squillaci was seen as one of La Ligas better centeral defenders
I would defo say the spanish league its not as physical and teams usually have a more attacking mentality there.
I would defo say the spanish league its not as physical and teams usually have a more attacking mentality there.