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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:54 am

    benitez is fat loser of course leonardo is better then him
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    Post by Mustangt125 Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:35 am

    He's class on the World XI on fifa.
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    Post by moscowmadeit3 Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:51 am

    Can't do much worse, surely?
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:00 am

    Inter fans are pissed apparently.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:06 am

    masutora wrote:Typical money grabbing traitorous Brazilian.
    Shut the fuck up, wasn't it Milan that didn't want him and now he's a traitor? if he was at Milan and Inter offered him the job then it would be different. I guess Pirlo is a traitor also as well right? Rolling Eyes
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    Post by masutora Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:34 am

    Inter sold Pirlo because they thought he was shit and useless. Poor example, besides Pirlo was a youth. Surely a club legend would not only understand the rivalry but also have emotions attached to it from all the years spent at the club actually playing against Inter?

    I guess I should have thrown a little hissy fit, swore and possibly name-called since that's typical of children on this forum.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sat Dec 25, 2010 11:51 am

    masutora wrote:Inter sold Pirlo because they thought he was shit and useless. Poor example, besides Pirlo was a youth. Surely a club legend would not only understand the rivalry but also have emotions attached to it from all the years spent at the club actually playing against Inter?

    I guess I should have thrown a little hissy fit, swore and possibly name-called since that's typical of children on this forum.
    Isn't that what you did? you were calling him names (Typical money grabbing traitorous brazilian) so I don't know what you are talking about.

    He's not a traitor, Milan let him go because they thought he's not good enough and now he's at Inter not because of the money, but because he wants to prove he's a world class manager. If he was still a player and did this then it's different. Plus it's not like he was managing Milan and Inter offered him a contract.
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    Post by masutora Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:02 pm

    Nah, I spoke the truth. There are so many Brazilians in general that don't understand clubs and the history and rivalries behind them. I can understand they were born in poor conditions but if they truly hold a club to their heart they wouldn't play/manage for their fiercest rivals.

    You can argue all they want to do is play football but many of these same footballers choose to stay and sit on the bench with a higher wage than move to another club to actually play.

    Like I said, it's typical. Usually club legends are above that. I can understand your point, though. My understanding was also that Leonardo stepped down/agreed with the club (Milan) to step down because he wanted a break from football.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:06 pm

    masutora wrote:Nah, I spoke the truth. There are so many Brazilians in general that don't understand clubs and the history and rivalries behind them. I can understand they were born in poor conditions but if they truly hold a club to their heart they wouldn't play/manage for their fiercest rivals.

    You can argue all they want to do is play football but many of these same footballers choose to stay and sit on the bench with a higher wage than move to another club to actually play.

    Like I said, it's typical. Usually club legends are above that. I can understand your point, though. My understanding was also that Leonardo stepped down/agreed with the club (Milan) to step down because he wanted a break from football.
    Name at least five players (brazilians) that choose to get money than play?

    You are just generalizing way too much, Italians move from rivals to rivals every time as well but I seriously rarely see Brazilians move from a rival team to another. I really want you to name some players that don't hold their clubs to heart. Neutral
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    Post by masutora Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:32 pm

    Julio Baptista
    Doni
    Cicinho

    Off the top of my head and those are only from Roma. Laughing

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    A case can even be made for Adriano. Ronaldinho (won't go back to Gremio unless without contract rescission) and Mancini. Never mind, it's too easy.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:06 pm

    masutora wrote:Julio Baptista
    Doni
    Cicinho

    Off the top of my head and those are only from Roma. Laughing

    edit:

    A case can even be made for Adriano. Ronaldinho (won't go back to Gremio unless without contract rescission) and Mancini. Never mind, it's too easy.
    So because players aren't playing football means they are just sitting there for money? that's a joke man or else it would mean all the fringe players in the world just sit for money then? Rolling Eyes

    Ronaldinho is playing football week in week out what you talking about?

    Cicinho went on loan in Brazil because he wasn't getting time and has played 6 of 18 league matches for Roma even though he's 2nd/3rd choice. So that one is very invalid.

    Mancini...that's 1 - he's a stupid person

    Adriano has been injured most of the time this season and has started to play recently but his case is also very invalid because he tries to move clubs when they are not playing him.
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    Post by masutora Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:17 pm

    Ah, you can defend them all you want, I'm not going to bother.

    Dinho hasn't been in Milan's plans and refused a move to Gremio unless they rescind his contract (which means they buy out his contract).

    Adriano can't get fit. Seriously, it's not that hard to lose weight. Especially if you're getting paid to do it and being a professional footballer.

    Doni, Cicinho and Baptista have been asked to move to other clubs as Roma has no use for them but they refuse because so and so club won't pay as much. Sure blame is on Roma for giving that large of a contract in the first place but if they really wanted to "play football" they easily could.

    These fringe players can easily be starters in other leagues or even other teams in the same league and refuse because of the wages. Again, I get it's their choice and right to stick to the contract they signed but if they want to play they have been given many opportunities to move.

    Also, merry Christmas to you.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:36 pm

    masutora wrote:Ah, you can defend them all you want, I'm not going to bother.

    Dinho hasn't been in Milan's plans and refused a move to Gremio unless they rescind his contract (which means they buy out his contract).

    Adriano can't get fit. Seriously, it's not that hard to lose weight. Especially if you're getting paid to do it and being a professional footballer.

    Doni, Cicinho and Baptista have been asked to move to other clubs as Roma has no use for them but they refuse because so and so club won't pay as much. Sure blame is on Roma for giving that large of a contract in the first place but if they really wanted to "play football" they easily could.

    These fringe players can easily be starters in other leagues or even other teams in the same league and refuse because of the wages. Again, I get it's their choice and right to stick to the contract they signed but if they want to play they have been given many opportunities to move.

    Also, merry Christmas to you.
    But it's not like Ronaldinho is going to sit on the bench he's a first team player and deserves his wages (whatever he's being paid). But you make it sound like it's only Brazil players that just sit on the bench instead of moving on...but whatever.

    Anyways, merry Christmas to you as well Masutora.
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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:50 pm

    What about all those Brazilians signings deals in Ukraine, Turkey, Russia, Egypt, Persian gulf etc.

    ???
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    Post by masutora Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:55 pm

    I didn't mean only Brazilians just that I know a bunch. And for the Polish kid, there are plenty of Brazilians in other lesser known leagues but I'm referring to the ones in top flight leagues and have had the "taste" of high wages and then decide to take the wage than time on the pitch.

    Anyway, I realize that my initial post was somewhat anti-Brazilian so I am aware of that. I like most of them to be honest. Laughing

    My main point is that when Leonardo was approached for the manager position at AS Roma when Ranieri was on the hot seat around a month ago he replied that he had no interest in coaching a rival of Milan, a club he holds so close to his heart. He went on to say that he would rather take a break from football than manage a rival of his most favourite club. The only thing that makes sense is money. Roma has none so clearly it wasn't enough for him or Inter had enough money to put his club/heart feelings aside.


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    Post by Guest Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:52 pm

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    Post by Mustangt125 Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:44 am

    George you are the best. Keep posting as long as that dime is in your sig

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