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    Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 6:33 pm

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
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    It pretty much is. You are saying if you disregard TV money (which is another way of saying your club would be better off if it had the same money playing in the PL). Reputation isn't an arbitrary thing. It's earned. There is a reason more people watch, support, and pour their money in PL clubs over SPL clubs.

    So yeah, Celtic would have a better brand if they were playing in the PL. But what's your point?

    You fucking idiot, I never once mentioned a theoretical scenario where Celtic are in the premiership. I said that we still managed to finish above most premiership clubs without needing the TV exposure they get, showing how big a club Celtic are. If karma existed a masked man would smash in your front door right now and brutally rape you for your ignorance and insolence. Don't even bother to justify your shite, shite comment because I won't respond.

    I don't why you are being so sensitive and cursing so much. Please try to have a discussion without sounding like an ass.

    I read through the thread and didn't see a single person say that Celtic is a small club. You went on for almost a whole page on how much other clubs depend on TV revenue more than Celtic do. So what? In the end your brand value is still less. It doesn't really matter that clubs higher have bigger TV revenues than Celtic. TV revenue is part of being a club and it's brand value. You were just playing an IF game (which is where my Celtic in the PL comment came in to play). So I go back to my original comment. What a pointless argument. Zzonked summed it up nicely by saying "If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle". Which you responded by saying "it shows how big Celtic is without TV revenue" (which nobody really was arguing against). If this is somehow related to a different argument about Celtic being a small club in another thread, then I apologize. I was not part of that discussion.
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Thu May 24, 2012 6:41 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:
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    You fucking idiot, I never once mentioned a theoretical scenario where Celtic are in the premiership. I said that we still managed to finish above most premiership clubs without needing the TV exposure they get, showing how big a club Celtic are. If karma existed a masked man would smash in your front door right now and brutally rape you for your ignorance and insolence. Don't even bother to justify your shite, shite comment because I won't respond.

    I don't why you are being so sensitive and cursing so much. Please try to have a discussion without sounding like an ass.

    I read through the thread and didn't see a single person say that Celtic is a small club. You went on for almost a whole page on how much other clubs depend on TV revenue more than Celtic do. So what? In the end your brand value is still less. It doesn't really matter that clubs higher have bigger TV revenues than Celtic. TV revenue is part of being a club and it's brand value. You were just playing an IF game (which is where my Celtic in the PL comment came in to play). So I go back to my original comment. What a pointless argument. Zzonked summed it up nicely by saying "If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle". Which you responded by saying "it shows how big Celtic is without TV revenue" (which nobody really was arguing against). If this is somehow related to a different argument about Celtic being a small club in another thread, then I apologize. I was not part of that discussion.

    It's not an 'IF game.' You just agreed that it shows how big a club Celtic are. That's all I'm saying. You might not think that matters. I'm meant to be revising, can we please leave it there?
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    Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 6:46 pm

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:

    I don't why you are being so sensitive and cursing so much. Please try to have a discussion without sounding like an ass.

    I read through the thread and didn't see a single person say that Celtic is a small club. You went on for almost a whole page on how much other clubs depend on TV revenue more than Celtic do. So what? In the end your brand value is still less. It doesn't really matter that clubs higher have bigger TV revenues than Celtic. TV revenue is part of being a club and it's brand value. You were just playing an IF game (which is where my Celtic in the PL comment came in to play). So I go back to my original comment. What a pointless argument. Zzonked summed it up nicely by saying "If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle". Which you responded by saying "it shows how big Celtic is without TV revenue" (which nobody really was arguing against). If this is somehow related to a different argument about Celtic being a small club in another thread, then I apologize. I was not part of that discussion.

    It's not an 'IF game.' You just agreed that it shows how big a club Celtic are. That's all I'm saying. You might not think that matters. I'm meant to be revising, can we please leave it there?

    Okay, I never said they were a small club to begin with. And the point I was making was nobody else was too. So if you were just looking for others to affirm that Celtic is not a small club, consider me a believer.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 7:07 pm

    Glen Damon wrote:Celtic are only up there because the drunk American teenagers who justify their disgusting addiction with their "0.1% Irish blood" buy the merchandise so that they look like leprechauns.

    OMG rofl rofl
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Thu May 24, 2012 7:12 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:
    ConorCelticFC wrote:

    It's not an 'IF game.' You just agreed that it shows how big a club Celtic are. That's all I'm saying. You might not think that matters. I'm meant to be revising, can we please leave it there?

    Okay, I never said they were a small club to begin with. And the point I was making was nobody else was too. So if you were just looking for others to affirm that Celtic is not a small club, consider me a believer.

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    Glen Damon wrote:Celtic are only up there because the drunk American teenagers who justify their disgusting addiction with their "0.1% Irish blood" buy the merchandise so that they look like leprechauns.

    Do you meet a lot of Plastic Paddy Celtic fans in America? I'm a bit of one myself, although my entire Dad's family is Irish.
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    Post by Laurencio Thu May 24, 2012 8:12 pm

    Fonseca wrote:I don't get it, Seattle Sounders are worth more than Atletico Madrid? Atletico get better tv rights, have a bigger fan base and have more money... wtf

    Considering how huge the American market is I could see how a good marketing team could exploit that for a team like the Seattle Sounders. Not entirely strange for an American team to do well in America to be fair.

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
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    I know that's what you are saying, but I disagree with the assumption as I don't see how you could make that conclusion with the data available. I can see no direct correlation between dependency on TV exposure and the results presented in this ranking. Please explain how these results in any way prove, show or even indicate that you are less reliant on TV exposure?

    Don't get me wrong here, I'm not arguing that Celtic is a small club and a poor brand, not at all. However I can't see how you can make the conclusions and assumptions you are making based on the data presented.

    If you agree that TV exposure is important for a club's brand it is logical to say that when a team like Celtic with next to no exposure gets on the list they must have a very strong brand in other ways. That's my final word on the matter.


    I don't really see how you can make the assumption that Celtic get next to no exposure. It's significantly less compared to the biggest premier league clubs, that's a given, but the brand surely benefits from participation and subsequent exposure given, in European competition and the dominant position they have in the domestic league.
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    Post by fluffy_kittens Fri May 25, 2012 2:44 am

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
    Glen Damon wrote:Celtic are only up there because the drunk American teenagers who justify their disgusting addiction with their "0.1% Irish blood" buy the merchandise so that they look like leprechauns.

    Do you meet a lot of Plastic Paddy Celtic fans in America? I'm a bit of one myself, although my entire Dad's family is Irish.

    I've seen a small amount of Celtic shirts here. Maybe like 4 or 5 kids in my high school I can remember wearing Celtic jerseys
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Fri May 25, 2012 2:57 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:I don't get it, Seattle Sounders are worth more than Atletico Madrid? Atletico get better tv rights, have a bigger fan base and have more money... wtf

    Considering how huge the American market is I could see how a good marketing team could exploit that for a team like the Seattle Sounders. Not entirely strange for an American team to do well in America to be fair.

    What are you trying to say?
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    Post by Laurencio Fri May 25, 2012 3:02 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:

    Considering how huge the American market is I could see how a good marketing team could exploit that for a team like the Seattle Sounders. Not entirely strange for an American team to do well in America to be fair.

    What are you trying to say?

    I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know.

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