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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 12:23 pm

    Alan, we only have the independent report to go off of, and that says that Suarez was guilty of using "Negro" in a derogatory manner numerous times.
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    Post by The_Quilo Wed May 23, 2012 12:52 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:but he does it on FIFA so it must be possible in the real world

    cunt.

    All I am indirectly saying is that we need a new striker. That was my original point. I repeat, one injury to Rooney and we are screwed for the rest of the season. Why do we need to rely so much on one player? I say, bring in another striker who can pick up the slack if/when Rooney is injured.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 23, 2012 1:25 pm

    Alan wrote:
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    The song about killing any bastard that gets in our way is obviously not a serious threat. What is serious is barracking victims of racial abusing and calling them liars because it was one of your lot that abused them, what is serious is racially abusing players, and then justifying it by saying it's because he's a Manc (evne if he's from Norwich) and meeting the police with a wall of silence, what is serious is making monkey gestures towards black players.

    As a former student of psychology it's a fascinating case study of cognitive dissonance that you aren't instantly repulsed by all the disgusting things your club and its fans do. If this was a Spanish or French team and I explained to you everything they got up to you'd have nothing but contempt for them.

    Sleep And you were there and heard that it was actually racist abuse. Sleep And you are full of shit making out all Liverpool fans are the same, and all Manchester United fans are not racist, good and bad in all. And if i heard anyone racially abusing anyone at a football game, I would not give a fuck if they were Liverpool supporters i would tell the truth about what i heard and so would loads of Liverpool fans. And there are a lot of people from different races go to watch Liverpool aswell and i dont think they would just sit there and listen to people racially abusing others just because they are Liverpool fans.

    Your head is so far up your own arse, come back down to the real world. The song about killing people should not be allowed, if its a serious threat or not.

    No, Alan, I wasn't there, but the only independent investigation by disinterested parties found that Suarez had indeed racially abused Patrice Evra. There was no evidence to the contrary other than the opinions of people who weren't there, such as Kenneth Dalglish, and Luis Suarez himself, all of whom had an interest in seeing Suarez found innocent, and yet Liverpool fans have castigated Evra as a liar and deceiver.

    Would you agree that this abuse, and the abuse of the Ferdinands and Tom Adeyemi, may discourage victims of racial abuse from reporting it in the future?

    I don't believe you would tell the truth about what you heard because of the cognitive dissonance I alluded to earlier. Being in a crowd full of people who give a particular account of events, however absurd, (ie. saying the words "Manc Twat" rather than "Black Twat" were aimed at a black man from Norwich) can genuinely change one's memory, especially in a tribal environment like a football stadium, and particularly when someone from the opposing team is claiming something against one of your own. It's even moreso when successive legendary managers have managed to convince most of the Liverpool fanbase that they are the victims of multiple national conspiracies, most recently involving a black man playing the race card to get Liverpool's completely innocent striker banned.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Wed May 23, 2012 1:29 pm

    The_Quilo wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:but he does it on FIFA so it must be possible in the real world

    cunt.

    All I am indirectly saying is that we need a new striker. That was my original point. I repeat, one injury to Rooney and we are screwed for the rest of the season. Why do we need to rely so much on one player? I say, bring in another striker who can pick up the slack if/when Rooney is injured.

    Berbatov saved you guys before..he's capable of doing it again.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 1:40 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
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    Sleep And you were there and heard that it was actually racist abuse. Sleep And you are full of shit making out all Liverpool fans are the same, and all Manchester United fans are not racist, good and bad in all. And if i heard anyone racially abusing anyone at a football game, I would not give a fuck if they were Liverpool supporters i would tell the truth about what i heard and so would loads of Liverpool fans. And there are a lot of people from different races go to watch Liverpool aswell and i dont think they would just sit there and listen to people racially abusing others just because they are Liverpool fans.

    Your head is so far up your own arse, come back down to the real world. The song about killing people should not be allowed, if its a serious threat or not.

    No, Alan, I wasn't there, but the only independent investigation by disinterested parties found that Suarez had indeed racially abused Patrice Evra. There was no evidence to the contrary other than the opinions of people who weren't there, such as Kenneth Dalglish, and Luis Suarez himself, all of whom had an interest in seeing Suarez found innocent, and yet Liverpool fans have castigated Evra as a liar and deceiver.

    Would you agree that this abuse, and the abuse of the Ferdinands and Tom Adeyemi, may discourage victims of racial abuse from reporting it in the future?

    I don't believe you would tell the truth about what you heard because of the cognitive dissonance I alluded to earlier. Being in a crowd full of people who give a particular account of events, however absurd, (ie. saying the words "Manc Twat" rather than "Black Twat" were aimed at a black man from Norwich) can genuinely change one's memory, especially in a tribal environment like a football stadium, and particularly when someone from the opposing team is claiming something against one of your own. It's even moreso when successive legendary managers have managed to convince most of the Liverpool fanbase that they are the victims of multiple national conspiracies, most recently involving a black man playing the race card to get Liverpool's completely innocent striker banned.

    blah blah blah :sleep:Geek
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 1:45 pm

    Wow, another beasting by Alan. clap I don't know how RR will recover.
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    Post by The_Quilo Wed May 23, 2012 1:45 pm

    N wrote:
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    cunt.

    All I am indirectly saying is that we need a new striker. That was my original point. I repeat, one injury to Rooney and we are screwed for the rest of the season. Why do we need to rely so much on one player? I say, bring in another striker who can pick up the slack if/when Rooney is injured.

    Berbatov saved you guys before..he's capable of doing it again.

    That would be great and all, if the 31 year old hadn't announced his intention of leaving in the summer...
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Wed May 23, 2012 1:47 pm

    Would be good and all...if he didn't feel like he was being forced out. No respect.
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    Post by The_Quilo Wed May 23, 2012 3:09 pm

    N wrote:Would be good and all...if he didn't feel like he was being forced out. No respect.

    I would love him to stay if he was content to sit on the bench, but from what it sounds, that's not how he see's his last few footballing years panning out.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Wed May 23, 2012 3:30 pm

    How old is he? 31?
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    Post by The_Quilo Wed May 23, 2012 4:05 pm

    N wrote:How old is he? 31?

    Yep.
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 7:13 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Alan wrote:What you dont want another good Scouser in your team.scratch

    I want good players in the United team regardless of where they come from, I don't discriminate like the despicable shower of cunts you proudly associate yourself with.

    I don't want United to spend money on Leighton Baines because he is an average footballer, and Evra shits on him. I'd rather play one of the twins there or Johnny Evans.

    not really, evra has been really really shit
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    Post by Guest Wed May 23, 2012 8:39 pm

    i wonder if hargreaves is gonna blame the man city medical staff too now Rolling Eyes

    fucking cunt
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    Post by menalawyerguy Wed May 23, 2012 8:48 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:
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    I want good players in the United team regardless of where they come from, I don't discriminate like the despicable shower of cunts you proudly associate yourself with.

    I don't want United to spend money on Leighton Baines because he is an average footballer, and Evra shits on him. I'd rather play one of the twins there or Johnny Evans.

    not really, evra has been really really shit

    He just had an off year.
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    Post by Kuled Wed May 23, 2012 8:55 pm

    menalawyerguy wrote:
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    not really, evra has been really really shit

    He just had an off year.
    Neutral He's had 2 shit seasons in a row now.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Wed May 23, 2012 9:04 pm

    He just had a couple off years. Manchester United FC Official Thread - Page 5 279869
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    Post by Laurencio Wed May 23, 2012 9:58 pm

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/23/rio-ferdinand-england-cristiano-ronaldo

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    Post by Cam Wed May 23, 2012 10:43 pm

    Kwadwo Asamoah ‏@Asabob20
    "@jonnailed: @Asabob20 any chance of plying your trade at Manchester United next year?? cmon tell me... #mufc" Haha you tell me
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed May 23, 2012 11:59 pm

    Evra has not been shit, he's just been below his own exceptional standards due to extremely stressful and emotionally devastating events in his personal life, his professional life, and his international career.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 12:01 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Evra has not been shit, he's just been below his own exceptional standards due to extremely stressful and emotionally devastating events in his personal life, his professional life, and his international career.

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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu May 24, 2012 12:12 am

    Alan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:Evra has not been shit, he's just been below his own exceptional standards due to extremely stressful and emotionally devastating events in his personal life, his professional life, and his international career.

    What a Face

    Hello Alan, I'm saddened you take such an attitude to the death of a man's brother. Please answer the question I posed earlier

    Would you agree that the abuse of Evra, the Ferdinands and Tom Adeyemi, may discourage victims of racial abuse from reporting it in the future?
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    Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 12:16 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
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    What a Face

    Hello Alan, I'm saddened you take such an attitude to the death of a man's brother. Please answer the question I posed earlier

    Would you agree that the abuse of Evra, the Ferdinands and Tom Adeyemi, may discourage victims of racial abuse from reporting it in the future?

    Never said anything about the mans brother, and i feel sorry he lost his brother. I wonder when the day will come, when they take chants of killing people in the same light as racial abuse.What a Face
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu May 24, 2012 12:24 am

    Alan wrote:
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    Hello Alan, I'm saddened you take such an attitude to the death of a man's brother. Please answer the question I posed earlier

    Would you agree that the abuse of Evra, the Ferdinands and Tom Adeyemi, may discourage victims of racial abuse from reporting it in the future?

    Never said anything about the mans brother, and i feel sorry he lost his brother. I wonder when the day will come, when they take chants of killing people in the same light as racial abuse.What a Face

    I wonder that too. Please answer the question.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 12:30 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
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    Never said anything about the mans brother, and i feel sorry he lost his brother. I wonder when the day will come, when they take chants of killing people in the same light as racial abuse.What a Face

    I wonder that too. Please answer the question.

    Why do i need to answer the question, as you have already made your mind up about me and all the Liverpool fans. So why would i care about racial abuse, because im a Liverpool fan and according to you we all are racists.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu May 24, 2012 12:38 am

    Alan wrote:
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    I wonder that too. Please answer the question.

    Why do i need to answer the question, as you have already made your mind up about me and all the Liverpool fans. So why would i care about racial abuse, because im a Liverpool fan and according to you we all are racists.

    I believe if you answer the question you will be more able to understand my position, my persistent criticism of Liverpool FC and its fans. Please answer the question if you are able.
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    Post by Kuled Thu May 24, 2012 4:31 am

    http://www.football-italia.net/19148/man-utd-join-lavezzi-race
    eek We can't compete with the money though.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 4:51 am

    if we are looking for that type of player we may aswell get kagawa, he would by far be the best value for money
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    Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 5:50 am

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    2. Arsenal 772 415 204 153 1345 717 628 1449
    3. Chelsea 772 401 199 172 1282 741 541 1402
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    Post by Guest Thu May 24, 2012 6:02 am

    Baines IN?
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    Post by Kuled Thu May 24, 2012 6:12 am

    Over 1500 goals scored in the premier league, awesome.

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