Liverpool FC Official Thread

It's silly to compare Suarez to Van Persie. The latters finishing is on a completely different level.

Arsenal fans obsessed .

David Simpson ‏@davidsimpson88
#LFC contacted de Boer in the last 48 hours and he has asked for time to consider their approach

Maybe he can make Suarez score.

Same De Boer who didn't think Messi would turn out that good. Fantastic!

Cadbury wrote:Maybe he can make Suarez score.

He's already scored 21 times for us.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Cadbury wrote:Maybe he can make Suarez score.

He's already scored 21 times for us.

Your post makes me want to kill myself.

Theo Filippo wrote:Same De Boer who didn't think Messi would turn out that good. Fantastic!

My friend, he is not a fortune teller

Theo Filippo wrote:Same De Boer who didn't think Messi would turn out that good. Fantastic!

Link

Cadbury wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

He's already scored 21 times for us.

Your post makes me want to kill myself.

But not quite?


He's already scored 21 times for us.

Jordo wrote:

Theo Filippo wrote:Same De Boer who didn't think Messi would turn out that good. Fantastic!

Link

http://www.totalbarca.com/2010/interviews/ronald-de-boer-messi-is-something-special/#more-31904

It was on the Messi documentary on ITV4 not sure if that's the same quote as on that.

BladeGunner wrote:I'm leaving this thread before I kill myself.

Please stay.

Theo Filippo wrote:

Jordo wrote:

Link

http://www.totalbarca.com/2010/interviews/ronald-de-boer-messi-is-something-special/#more-31904

It was on the Messi documentary on ITV4 not sure if that's the same quote as on that.

Bit harsh on him there. What he said wasn't really that bad.

BladeGunner wrote:

Theo Filippo wrote:http://www.totalbarca.com/2010/interviews/ronald-de-boer-messi-is-something-special/#more-31904

It was on the Messi documentary on ITV4 not sure if that's the same quote as on that.

Bit harsh on him there. What he said wasn't really that bad.

It sounded worse on the documentary I'm sure they are different quotes.

Theo Filippo wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:

Bit harsh on him there. What he said wasn't really that bad.

It sounded worse on the documentary I'm sure they are different quotes.

Ah, okay. I don't think he's the right man for Liverpool anyway. At this point it's difficult to tell how good a manager he really is so he's better off proving himself at Ajax first.

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=22080



This guy knows his stuff.

Jordo wrote:http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=22080



This guy knows his stuff.

Great read and i did not and still dont want to have a go at the owners and everyone, because people would have just said its all because of Dalglish being my hero. But ive still got my thoughts on what has happened and whats going to happen in the future. So i will give them time to see how things go before i would make my judgement on the things thats happening at Liverpool.

Alan, would you mind copying and pasting that post for me? I can't view it because I am...denied access to RAWK.

Glen Damon wrote:Alan, would you mind copying and pasting that post for me? I can't view it because I am...denied access to RAWK.

Log out, and clear your cookies/cache.

Jordo wrote:

Glen Damon wrote:Alan, would you mind copying and pasting that post for me? I can't view it because I am...denied access to RAWK.

Log out, and clear your cookies/cache.

My computer freezes when I clear my cache.

I might try a different browser, thanks.

Do you know the really interesting bit mate, this bit.

"To get it straight, I think we should avoid the natural temptation to jump straight in to the deal with NESV. Whilst they are charming, intelligent and credible their bid is by any standards at the extreme bottom end of the 'right deal' threshold we set for ourselves: it only reduces debt by less than half and is I feel unlikely to yield incremental equity to fund a stadium.

If a month before the Club was sold FSG's bid was less than half the debt then it was way below what they eventually bought the Club for. That leaves two possible conclusions for me.

1. Either someone tipped off FSG about the value of Lim's bid and they matched it. OR
2. The terms of the sale allowed the bidding parties to increase their bids.

If it was number two why was Lim's bid of another £30m rejected ? Especially when Lim was prepared to bankroll a transfer kitty.




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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Who's actually advising the FSG?

« on: Yesterday at 09:37:01 PM »
The thing about who is advising FSG for me is that it is not people from within the Club, it is not people who have a stake in the Club and it is not people who have anything to gain by Liverpool doing well. We are asking our competitors for advice. We have reportedly consulted Arsenal people like Edelman and Dein and Ajax's Cruyff. Why would they pass on their hard earned Football acumen to Henry and FSG.

It reminds me of Coaches coming to Anfield looking for the secret of our success in the 70's and 80's and being told there was none and then being invited into the bootroom where Bugsy and Joe would pump them for information on their young players over a drink. How much are FSG gaining in these cosy chats with people from other Clubs and how much are they giving up.

Why aren't we getting the likes of Kenny, Hansen and Barnes in positions with in the upper echelons of the Club and using our brains trust instead of thinking that our competitors will give up theirs.




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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Ian Ayre outlines the way forward (*)

« on: Yesterday at 09:24:53 PM »
Whilst Purslow had no right to interfere and play Football manager with the Club he is a Graduate of Harvard Business School and jointly setup Mid Ocean Partners a New York Based Private Equity firm, a multi billion dollar enterprise so he clearly has a nose for finance. In a internal email to Nash and Ayre on the 15th of September 2010 he wrote.

"To get it straight, I think we should avoid the natural temptation to jump straight in to the deal with NESV. Whilst they are charming, intelligent and credible their bid is by any standards at the extreme bottom end of the 'right deal' threshold we set for ourselves: it only reduces debt by less than half and is I feel unlikely to yield incremental equity to fund a stadium.

"They may say they have money if necessary but I do not take this very seriously. Their eyes only lit up at the idea of other opportunity improvements. An American deal guy simply can't avoid using other people's money if they can.

"There is no extra money on the table to enable short-term investment in what remains a squad palpably needing more quality if we are to be definitively top four. New American sport team owners with the senior guy being a hedge fund manager could not be worst [sic] from an image standpoint, which is an issue for us independents. I have not even talked about valuation. I leave that to other members of the board. So what is positive? Answer, they exist. Which is not a lot, but it is not to be underestimated in importance."


I think that email has stood the test of time don't you ?




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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Ian Ayre outlines the way forward (*)

« on: Yesterday at 07:58:12 PM »


Quote from: GeneticRed on Yesterday at 07:18:01 PM

Serious question. What was Ayre's relationship like with Rafa?

Hugely disappointing, Ayre was unfortunately unable to sell any shirts with Rafa on the back in Asia. Seriously why would a Commercial Director have a relationship with the manager, it is only since Ayre has filled Cecil's cuban heels that Ayre has had a relationship with the Liverpool's manager.

It was funny watching the Kop Kids thing on LFCTV in which Ayre was telling a young lad that his role was to run the Club. Funny how he forgot about his role when the Suarez affair kicked off but remembered it when there was brownie points to be earned on Sky. I have a feeling Peter Robinson wouldn't of been found hiding under his desk with his fingers in his ears when the Suarez issue surfaced.




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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Ian Ayre outlines the way forward (*)

« on: Yesterday at 06:47:47 PM »


Quote from: hugoboss on Yesterday at 06:04:29 PM

Or he could have bought on in the summer when we were spunking loads of players we didn't really need.

But hey it's all FSG's fault

It was FSG's man Comolli who stated that the spending spree was over and that we had a perfectly balanced squad. If we are to believe the story that Meireles surprisingly put in a transfer request at the last minute then we were already one CM short going into the season.

The season without Europe was expected to be 40-45 games in length, when we lost Lucas for the entire season and it became clear we were going to be playing close to 50 games why wasn't the Meireles money re-invested in January ?.

If it was because FSG didn't trust Kenny and Comolli to spend anymore money then wouldn't it be fairer to judge the season upto January. Upto January we were a couple of points of the top 4 with all our rivals Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs having to come to Anfield. We had take 34 points from 19 games which would of put us on course for 68 points.

For me it was the T-shirt row and the reaction of the sponsors that spelled the end of Kenny's reign. The plug was pulled on the January spending, Kenny was hung out to dry and Ayre looked to distance himself from the fall out by forcing Kenny and Suarez to apologise.

We went from a Club that was going to fight the Suarez case to the bitter end to a Club that filled it's pants and apologised to all and sundry the second the sponsors put their nose in. From that moment the off the record briefings went from supporting Kenny to the drip drip drip that accompanies a dead man walking.

The Club allowed Kenny and Luis to be branded racists and looked to cover it's arse with Ayre giving his puke inducing interview with Sky in which he sought to distance the Club from Kenny. Forget the Club's socialist principles and desire to do the right thing and embrace Corporate greed and the backstabbing of a fella who has dedicated a massive chunk of his life to the Club and even now cannot bring himself to criticise the Club. Kenny is worth more than the whole of FSG put together.

Would like Aquilani and Joe Cole to stay with us.

Managing LFC has basically reached 'sex with the queen' status. It's an honour to be asked but you wouldn't actually want to do it.

Why would it be an honour to be asked to have sex with the Queen.

Frank de Boer rejects Liverpool approach.

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/clubfootball/news/newsid=1634809.html?cid=rssfeed&att=

Alan wrote:Why would it be an honour to be asked to have sex with the Queen.

Don't worry, you'll never get the chance. She wouldn't touch you.

Anyway:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Alan wrote:Looks smashable, but the top half of the face could be key.

Would you look at the mantelpiece when poking the fire.

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:

Alan wrote:Why would it be an honour to be asked to have sex with the Queen.

Don't worry, you'll never get the chance. She wouldn't touch you.

Anyway:

Alan wrote:

Would you look at the mantelpiece when poking the fire.

I think you will find that was the wrong way round. And i think the Playmaker cresh is due to open, and i will let you know when it happens so you can join.