Mr. Kurtz wrote:Carroll didn't even contribute anything last season. Why couldn't Dalglish have just waited for the summer to come before purchasing a striker? It's not like Liverpool had anything to play for at that point either. Terrible decisions by everyone involved.
Mr. Kurtz wrote:Carroll didn't even contribute anything last season. Why couldn't Dalglish have just waited for the summer to come before purchasing a striker? It's not like Liverpool had anything to play for at that point either. Terrible decisions by everyone involved.
ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:The Bat-Man wrote:
Why do people have this obsession with picking up on little technicalities.
What do you have to say about everything else.
Because everything has been said before. It wasn't the plan to buy Carroll. We were going to start Suarez and Torres up front, which could have been devastating, but Torres fucked that up, by asking to leave and leaving us with little or no time to sign another striker. Carroll was playing well for Newcastle at that point, so we signed him. The only reason the price was so high, was because of the timing and the Newcastle owner's reluctance to let him go. Having said all this, I swear Carroll has a better goal return than Torres, or at least similar. So if Carroll is the worst buy of the century, what does that make Torres? He costed £15 million more.
You're talking out of your arse when you say the other signings sound like 'Comolli' signings. We Liverpool fans know more than you in that department, because we've read more about it. It has come out that all of the signings were actually Comolli signings. Comolli picks a player, asks Dalglish what he thinks, and Dalglish decides whether to go for him or not. There was even a transcript somewhere with the Carroll signing that went something like - Comolli: "What about Carroll?" Dalglish: "Can you get him?". Comolli was responsible for all of them, good or bad.
As for your Henderson comment. You contradict yourself. You say Henderson is a mid-table player who is not good enough to start for Liverpool. Well guess what? We currently ARE a mid-table team.
I still think Henderson will be a big player for us in the next 3 years. I can see it in his game. He has excellent first touch, a great engine, a good eye for key passes. It's not doing him any favours putting him on the wing. When he's been in the middle for us, he's held his own.
ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Ignoring our 2 Cup finals then?
NZG wrote:ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Ignoring our 2 Cup finals then?
Top four>2 cup finals
truth.
ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:NZG wrote:
Top four>2 cup finals
truth.
Teams aren't remembered for finishing 4th place. Teams are remembered for winning Trophies and adding more silverware to the cabinet.
ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:NZG wrote:
Top four>2 cup finals
truth.
Teams aren't remembered for finishing 4th place. Teams are remembered for winning Trophies and adding more silverware to the cabinet.
Birmingham.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:NZG wrote:
Top four>2 cup finals
truth.
Teams aren't remembered for finishing 4th place. Teams are remembered for winning Trophies and adding more silverware to the cabinet.
The Bat-Man wrote:ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:
Teams aren't remembered for finishing 4th place. Teams are remembered for winning Trophies and adding more silverware to the cabinet.
Teams aren't recognised by good players unless they're in continental competitions of the top kind.
The Champions League is where every big team should be, not in cup finals with second division Welsh teams.
No offence tot he Welsh.
NZG wrote:ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:
Teams aren't remembered for finishing 4th place. Teams are remembered for winning Trophies and adding more silverware to the cabinet.
We won't sign the best players by saying look we won the fa cup.
The Bat-Man wrote:NZG wrote:
We won't sign the best players by saying look we won the fa cup.
Exactly.
Liverpool are slowly degrading from a team that was proud of playing in Champions' League finals against top, top opposition to being proud of being in cup finals against inferior teams.
Oh lawdLiamB_14 wrote:ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Nice bait.
My friend, that is quite clearly not bait, but an honest and well balanced argument. Suarez was a very expensive purchase, and for his goals return, he has simply not lived up to the price tag. You would expect a perfect product when buying somebody for that price, unfortunately, Suarez is far from it, and he comes with alot of baggage, which is also costing the club.
Enrique and Bellamy are purchases which further go to prove that Kenny is reluctant to look outside of the premier league, and is blinded in thinking that English and premier league players are the best. Bellamy was never a signing which would propel Liverpool to the top 4, which is why City got rid of him.
Coates could be a decent centre back, however, it is quite clear to see that Suarez suggested him to Kenny and Kenny did not want to risk upset to Suarez.
When 9/10 signings are of a poor standard, with the amount of spending Kenny has had, you would have to question whether or not he is one of the worst managers to grace the modern game
ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:*sigh* We're not good enough to be in the CL. We'd just get knocked out early, like Arsenal did. Would rather win 2 Cups this year, than nothing this year plus being knocked out of the CL early next year.
Arsenal only got knocked out because we drew AC Milan despite winning our group, very unlucky draw and I enjoyed the home game. I'd rather play Milan in europe than win against Cardiff in the Carling Cup.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:*sigh* We're not good enough to be in the CL. We'd just get knocked out early, like Arsenal did. Would rather win 2 Cups this year, than nothing this year plus being knocked out of the CL early next year.
ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:The Bat-Man wrote:
Exactly.
Liverpool are slowly degrading from a team that was proud of playing in Champions' League finals against top, top opposition to being proud of being in cup finals against inferior teams.
Whilst Arsenal are proud to qualify for the CL every year, not coming close to winning it, and not winning anything at all.
ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:This is getting boring.
Okay then guys, you are all right. We are shit. End of.
I would like Arsenal to be in the FA Cup final for sure but only if we came out victorious.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Just because you guys would prefer not to win any trophies, doesn't mean I have to feel the same. I'm glad we're adding trophies to our collection, building on being the most decorated English Club.
I know Arsenal would love to be in the FA Cup final right now.
The Bat-Man wrote:NZG, with Liverpool being Liverpool you'll attract players to sign, but they have to be the right players and that's what Kenny has failed to do.
Chris wrote:I would like Arsenal to be in the FA Cup final for sure but only if we came out victorious.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Just because you guys would prefer not to win any trophies, doesn't mean I have to feel the same. I'm glad we're adding trophies to our collection, building on being the most decorated English Club.
I know Arsenal would love to be in the FA Cup final right now.
The point is, if you lose it then who cares?ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Chris wrote:I would like Arsenal to be in the FA Cup final for sure but only if we came out victorious.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Just because you guys would prefer not to win any trophies, doesn't mean I have to feel the same. I'm glad we're adding trophies to our collection, building on being the most decorated English Club.
I know Arsenal would love to be in the FA Cup final right now.
Lol, you can't predict that though. 'I'd only want to be in the final if we win it" Lmao.
kyro7 wrote:The point is, if you lose it then who cares?ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:
Lol, you can't predict that though. 'I'd only want to be in the final if we win it" Lmao.
NZG wrote:The Bat-Man wrote:NZG, with Liverpool being Liverpool you'll attract players to sign, but they have to be the right players and that's what Kenny has failed to do.
but how long will that last for? I doubt any good players will sign for kenny after seeing how maxi and bellamy have been treated.
I'd much rather be in Arsenal's position than Liverpool's overall.ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:kyro7 wrote:The point is, if you lose it then who cares?ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:
Lol, you can't predict that though. 'I'd only want to be in the final if we win it" Lmao.
My point was, I'm sure, right at this moment in time, Arsenal would like to be preparing for a big final.
