Liverpool FC Official Thread

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:

Danno wrote:

I disagree, take the the Manchester United league away game for example when he was coming back from his suspension; he was shite in fairness.

Unfair. The pressure on him throughout that match was huge.

That proves your previous claim wrong then, master Scott.

Didn't he score in that game?

Actually, thinking back to that game, he wasn't anonymous at all. I remember quite a lot of him from that match.

Especially how he made Ferdinand and Evra crash into each other

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:

Danno wrote:

I disagree, take the the Manchester United league away game for example when he was coming back from his suspension; he was shite in fairness.

Unfair. The pressure on him throughout that match was huge.

Then that proves your little blanket statement wrong then.

L. wrote:Didn't he score in that game?

Yes.

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Actually, thinking back to that game, he wasn't anonymous at all. I remember quite a lot of him from that match.

He was pretty fucking quiet, he scored his goal, and that what you said was like in the first minute and he didn't do much else worth noting.

kyro7 wrote:

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Actually, thinking back to that game, he wasn't anonymous at all. I remember quite a lot of him from that match.

He was pretty fucking quiet, he scored his goal, and that what you said was like in the first minute and he didn't do much else worth noting.

Dont know, he never shook Evra's hawn and that had eveyone talking and everyone noted that.

Alan wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Actually, thinking back to that game, he wasn't anonymous at all. I remember quite a lot of him from that match.

He was pretty fucking quiet, he scored his goal, and that what you said was like in the first minute and he didn't do much else worth noting.

Dont know, he never shook Evra's hawn and that had eveyone talking and everyone noted that.

Don't make things up, it was that negrito's fault.

Seems as if AC Milan don't want Aquliani as they are getting Montolivo on a free.. I want.

We really ought to keep Aquilani. Would be great to have him in the side, and let Henderson be a sub for a year or so. He's a good player to have when Gerrard gets injured too.

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Especially how he made Ferdinand and Evra crash into each other

That was hilarious.

Or, how about we sell Gerrard as he drains the club morally and financially?

What a novel idea.

If Liverpool didn't spend all their money on English flops, they could be somewhere in the league today.

Jordan Henderson, Andy Carroll and Steward Downing = Approx. £75,000,000

Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse and Yohan Cabaye = Approx. £15,000,000

Is Dalglish simply woeful in the transfer market, or did he feel pressured to sign these distinctly average players? I can't recall a bigger waste of funds in the Premier League.

you forgot Charlie Adam

Downing is far better than the others mentioned, he's a half decent winger to be honest.

He just lacks vision.

He just lacks a good team, if he was at United a lot of his delivery would result in goals.

The_Quilo wrote:If Liverpool didn't spend all their money on English flops, they could be somewhere in the league today.

Jordan Henderson, Andy Carroll and Steward Downing = Approx. £75,000,000

Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse and Yohan Cabaye = Approx. £15,000,000

Is Dalglish simply woeful in the transfer market, or did he feel pressured to sign these distinctly average players? I can't recall a bigger waste of funds in the Premier League.

You're about 6 months too late

The_Quilo wrote:If Liverpool didn't spend all their money on English flops, they could be somewhere in the league today.

Jordan Henderson, Andy Carroll and Steward Downing = Approx. £75,000,000

Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse and Yohan Cabaye = Approx. £15,000,000

Is Dalglish simply woeful in the transfer market, or did he feel pressured to sign these distinctly average players? I can't recall a bigger waste of funds in the Premier League.

Wherever there's a yin, there's a yang.

What I mean is, yes, he spend a lot on those three players.

But why don't I see you mention where he did well in the transfer market?

Suarez, Enrique, Coates and Bellamy.

Also, like others have pointed out, Downing isn't as bad as people seem to think. If he was at United right now, he'd be like Young IMO. Considering they were level on ability when playing for Aston Villa.

I'm still a fan of Henderson. He played well against West Brom and was unlucky not to score. He's played a lot of key passes this season too, that have resulted in goals.

I'm indifferent about Carroll. To be fair to him, he has put us through to the FA Cup final. Players gain hero status for doing things like that. If he were to score the winner in the final, all could be forgiven. He's also stated himself that he's playing nowhere near his best and that his form has dropped massively. We haven't seen him at the top of his game yet.

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:

The_Quilo wrote:If Liverpool didn't spend all their money on English flops, they could be somewhere in the league today.

Jordan Henderson, Andy Carroll and Steward Downing = Approx. £75,000,000

Demba Ba, Papiss Cisse and Yohan Cabaye = Approx. £15,000,000

Is Dalglish simply woeful in the transfer market, or did he feel pressured to sign these distinctly average players? I can't recall a bigger waste of funds in the Premier League.

Wherever there's a yin, there's a yang.

What I mean is, yes, he spend a lot on those three players.

But why don't I see you mention where he did well in the transfer market?

Suarez, Enrique, Coates and Bellamy.

Also, like others have pointed out, Downing isn't as bad as people seem to think. If he was at United right now, he'd be like Young IMO. Considering they were level on ability when playing for Aston Villa.

I'm still a fan of Henderson. He played well against West Brom and was unlucky not to score. He's played a lot of key passes this season too, that have resulted in goals.

I'm indifferent about Carroll. To be fair to him, he has put us through to the FA Cup final. Players gain hero status for doing things like that. If he were to score the winner in the final, all could be forgiven. He's also stated himself that he's playing nowhere near his best and that his form has dropped massively. We haven't seen him at the top of his game yet.

There's nothing special about those signings which is why nobody brings them up.

Nice bait.

Carroll is the worst buy of the century, £35 million on such an average striker, that kind of money could have been spent to get a striker with twice his ability.

As for Kenny's 'good signings', they have Comolli written all over them.

Onto Henderson, I feel he is an midtable player at the moment, not of sufficient quality to start for a team like Liverpool, he has age on his side but he is definitely not worth £20 million.

Scott, I respect your opinion, I'm not just hating on Liverpool here, but Dalglish is quite horrible in the transfer market.

The Bat-Man wrote:Carroll is the worst buy of the century, £35 million on such an average striker, that kind of money could have been spent to get a striker with twice his ability.

As for Kenny's 'good signings', they have Comolli written all over them.

Onto Henderson, I feel he is an midtable player at the moment, not of sufficient quality to start for a team like Liverpool, he has age on his side but he is definitely not worth £20 million.

Scott, I respect your opinion, I'm not just hating on Liverpool here, but Dalglish is quite horrible in the transfer market.

We got him for £16 million, not £20 million.

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:Carroll is the worst buy of the century, £35 million on such an average striker, that kind of money could have been spent to get a striker with twice his ability.

As for Kenny's 'good signings', they have Comolli written all over them.

Onto Henderson, I feel he is an midtable player at the moment, not of sufficient quality to start for a team like Liverpool, he has age on his side but he is definitely not worth £20 million.

Scott, I respect your opinion, I'm not just hating on Liverpool here, but Dalglish is quite horrible in the transfer market.

We got him for £16 million, not £20 million.

Why do people have this obsession with picking up on little technicalities.

What do you have to say about everything else.

How much was Shevchenko bought for? I would say he was a fucking awful signing, at least Carroll can at least come good. ( )

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Nice bait.

My friend, that is quite clearly not bait, but an honest and well balanced argument. Suarez was a very expensive purchase, and for his goals return, he has simply not lived up to the price tag. You would expect a perfect product when buying somebody for that price, unfortunately, Suarez is far from it, and he comes with alot of baggage, which is also costing the club.

Enrique and Bellamy are purchases which further go to prove that Kenny is reluctant to look outside of the premier league, and is blinded in thinking that English and premier league players are the best. Bellamy was never a signing which would propel Liverpool to the top 4, which is why City got rid of him.

Coates could be a decent centre back, however, it is quite clear to see that Suarez suggested him to Kenny and Kenny did not want to risk upset to Suarez.

When 9/10 signings are of a poor standard, with the amount of spending Kenny has had, you would have to question whether or not he is one of the worst managers to grace the modern game

L. wrote:How much was Shevchenko bought for? I would say he was a fucking awful signing, at least Carroll can at least come good. ( )

£30.8 million.

Shevchenko was bought for his European pedigree and flopped, Carroll was bought based on 6 months of top flight football.

I think when players are generally bought for that kind of money in England, they will flop. Too much pressure from the media, fans and owners.

The Bat-Man wrote:

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:

We got him for £16 million, not £20 million.

Why do people have this obsession with picking up on little technicalities.

What do you have to say about everything else.

Because everything has been said before. It wasn't the plan to buy Carroll. We were going to start Suarez and Torres up front, which could have been devastating, but Torres fucked that up, by asking to leave and leaving us with little or no time to sign another striker. Carroll was playing well for Newcastle at that point, so we signed him. The only reason the price was so high, was because of the timing and the Newcastle owner's reluctance to let him go. Having said all this, I swear Carroll has a better goal return than Torres, or at least similar. So if Carroll is the worst buy of the century, what does that make Torres? He costed £15 million more.

You're talking out of your arse when you say the other signings sound like 'Comolli' signings. We Liverpool fans know more than you in that department, because we've read more about it. It has come out that all of the signings were actually Comolli signings. Comolli picks a player, asks Dalglish what he thinks, and Dalglish decides whether to go for him or not. There was even a transcript somewhere with the Carroll signing that went something like - Comolli: "What about Carroll?" Dalglish: "Can you get him?". Comolli was responsible for all of them, good or bad.

As for your Henderson comment. You contradict yourself. You say Henderson is a mid-table player who is not good enough to start for Liverpool. Well guess what? We currently ARE a mid-table team.

I still think Henderson will be a big player for us in the next 3 years. I can see it in his game. He has excellent first touch, a great engine, a good eye for key passes. It's not doing him any favours putting him on the wing. When he's been in the middle for us, he's held his own.

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:Nice bait.

How? There was nothing special about those signings. You signed decent players and payed what they were worth.

ScottyBoy_1989 wrote:

The Bat-Man wrote:Carroll is the worst buy of the century, £35 million on such an average striker, that kind of money could have been spent to get a striker with twice his ability.

As for Kenny's 'good signings', they have Comolli written all over them.

Onto Henderson, I feel he is an midtable player at the moment, not of sufficient quality to start for a team like Liverpool, he has age on his side but he is definitely not worth £20 million.

Scott, I respect your opinion, I'm not just hating on Liverpool here, but Dalglish is quite horrible in the transfer market.

We got him for £16 million, not £20 million.

Really? Sky said his total fee was around £20m

Carroll didn't even contribute anything last season. Why couldn't Dalglish have just waited for the summer to come before purchasing a striker? It's not like Liverpool had anything to play for at that point either. Terrible decisions by everyone involved.