Wee Shaun Maloney cruising the Premiership

Lux wrote:Common sense seems to elude Conor

L. wrote:Where is this proof of Roma interest?

Lux wrote:Sean Murray had interest from Man City. He turned them down and stayed at Watford.

Zomg...Watford r bettur than Man Citeh!!!!!!!!!!!11111

Theo Filippo wrote:Roma had Pizarro, De Rossi, Menez, Taddei, Perrotta and Brighi at the time, they then brought in Fabio Simplicio instead, average reserve player.. can see why he would of rejected them.

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Theo Filippo wrote:Roma had Pizarro, De Rossi, Menez, Taddei, Perrotta and Brighi at the time, they then brought in Fabio Simplicio instead, average reserve player.. can see why he would of rejected them.

What? Are you saying Ledley would have been an average reserve player at Roma?

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Theo Filippo wrote:Roma had Pizarro, De Rossi, Menez, Taddei, Perrotta and Brighi at the time, they then brought in Fabio Simplicio instead, average reserve player.. can see why he would of rejected them.

What? Are you saying Ledley would have been an average reserve player at Roma?

L. wrote:Where is this proof of Roma interest?

ConorCelticFC wrote:

MickStupp wrote:
Just because they're offered contracts doesn't mean they're premier league quality, there are plenty of players that have totally disappointed, sometimes it's more down to circumstance than ability but you can't say someone is good enough to play in a certain league until they consistently play at that level.

Both Norwich and Wigan believe in their managers and there aren't any big egos playing for either club. They're not embarrassing themselves because the players are honest, they work hard and a few of them are actually good players. In Norwich's case they've done fantastic, just like quite a few teams that had just been promoted - and that's certainly not coincidence. I think if Wigan had a goalscorer like Grant Holt they'd be in a much better position.

You take the word "reject" at face value, as if the player wasn't good enough for your team. Things might not work out for a player at a certain club but they can still go on to improve and on to better and bigger things (Charlie Adam for example). It's no surprise that a player gets better once they're faced with tougher challenges. Plus, I'm sure there are many players who play in the championship (or at that level), get a move to the premier league and then wouldn't even think of going to Celtic.

The fact that Roma wanted him pretty much makes him too good for the Championship. I only use evidence like that because my own opinion from having seen him play is subjective. But surely if you've watched Ledley you can see he's comfortably premiership quality?

Of the players that went on loan to the Championship, they were all undisputable rejects. Hooiveld, Murphy, Thompson and O'Dea were all given ample opportunity and proved themselves not good enough, so I can't see your problem with my point.

Over the years there have been so many players that we didn't want shipped off to the Champonship, from Wallace to Pearson, but I can't ever remember us taking an out-of-favour Championship player.

Drake wrote:I don't take notice of any of the Celtic fans on here after one said Forrest is better than Hoilett

L. wrote:Isn't there only like 1 year difference between Hoilett and Forrest?

Henrik's Tongue wrote:

ConorCelticFC wrote:
Celtic benchwarmer = Wigan's best player. #EPLbestleagueintheworld

This

ConorCelticFC wrote:Ledley probably rejected them because he didn't want to move to Italy, not because they wanted him to be a reserve player. I reckon he's as good as the likes of Brighi, Simplicio, Perrotta and Taddei. It was just a throwaway comment anyway. All I'm saying is that Roma tried to sign him, which to me shows that he was one of the stand-out championship players as opposed to what Lux has been saying about him.

Totti wrote:Meh.

The SPL is shit, but it's our shit. (lol).

I think it's just nice to see a Scottish player who used to play in the the SPL do well in one of the best leagues in the world, against the best team in Britain.

Lux wrote:Not wanted by Celtic and goes to any club in the Championship is supposed to actually mean something? . Unless you're trying to prove a point that Celtic are not League 1 standard then your example doesn't make any sense. I'm sure lots of players in the SPL would rather go to the Championship then stay at their team.....and I doubt that too many of the West Ham team would want to go to Celtic.

End of the day, Roma "wanting" Ledley hasn't been proven at all, and even if he went that doesn't mean he's any good or that he'll play games...it just means Roma bought him. Man Utd bought Bebe...wow he is a God amongst men now!.

But yup...the proof is that Ledley was in the Championship, and was not too good for the league. He was in the shadow of Whittingham, a player still at Cardiff (which I find strange tbh...but still). Ledley was good at the time....but something has gone very wrong in your mind Master Conor.

Totti wrote:Meh.

The SPL is shit, but it's our shit. (lol).

I think it's just nice to see a Scottish player who used to play in the the SPL do well in one of the best leagues in the world, against the best team in Britain.

Hard to emphasise when you're English...but I am a Watford fan so do know the feeling a little.

I like Maloney, and I think Wigan play some decent football.

Has Maloney been injured or something?...not played much this season.

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Drake wrote:I don't take notice of any of the Celtic fans on here after one said Forrest is better than Hoilett

Forrest is better than Hoilett was at his age. There's not much in it even now tbh.

Drake wrote:

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Forrest is better than Hoilett was at his age. There's not much in it even now tbh.

Have you been sniffing glue?

ConorCelticFC wrote:

MickStupp wrote:
Just because they're offered contracts doesn't mean they're premier league quality, there are plenty of players that have totally disappointed, sometimes it's more down to circumstance than ability but you can't say someone is good enough to play in a certain league until they consistently play at that level.

Both Norwich and Wigan believe in their managers and there aren't any big egos playing for either club. They're not embarrassing themselves because the players are honest, they work hard and a few of them are actually good players. In Norwich's case they've done fantastic, just like quite a few teams that had just been promoted - and that's certainly not coincidence. I think if Wigan had a goalscorer like Grant Holt they'd be in a much better position.

You take the word "reject" at face value, as if the player wasn't good enough for your team. Things might not work out for a player at a certain club but they can still go on to improve and on to better and bigger things (Charlie Adam for example). It's no surprise that a player gets better once they're faced with tougher challenges. Plus, I'm sure there are many players who play in the championship (or at that level), get a move to the premier league and then wouldn't even think of going to Celtic.

The fact that Roma wanted him pretty much makes him too good for the Championship. I only use evidence like that because my own opinion from having seen him play is subjective. But surely if you've watched Ledley you can see he's comfortably premiership quality?

Of the players that went on loan to the Championship, they were all undisputable rejects. Hooiveld, Murphy, Thompson and O'Dea were all given ample opportunity and proved themselves not good enough, so I can't see your problem with my point.

Over the years there have been so many players that we didn't want shipped off to the Champonship, from Wallace to Pearson, but I can't ever remember us taking an out-of-favour Championship player.

Hatem Ba Cisse wrote:

ConorCelticFC wrote:

The fact that Roma wanted him pretty much makes him too good for the Championship. I only use evidence like that because my own opinion from having seen him play is subjective. But surely if you've watched Ledley you can see he's comfortably premiership quality?

Of the players that went on loan to the Championship, they were all undisputable rejects. Hooiveld, Murphy, Thompson and O'Dea were all given ample opportunity and proved themselves not good enough, so I can't see your problem with my point.

Over the years there have been so many players that we didn't want shipped off to the Champonship, from Wallace to Pearson, but I can't ever remember us taking an out-of-favour Championship player.

Kelvin Wilson?

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Hatem Ba Cisse wrote:

Kelvin Wilson?

Only out of favour because he signed a pre-contract with us.

ConorCelticFC wrote:

Drake wrote:Have you been sniffing glue?

Maybe you shouldn't have admitted a few months ago that you hadn't seen Forrest play before you decided to bluff even having a semblance of knowledge on him.