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    Post by luke. Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:53 am

    fuck off kyro -_-
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    Post by Theo Filippo Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:53 am

    rofl

    He was actually good at centre back though my mate was saying he looks better there than at full-back.
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    Post by Sean Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:54 am

    Hence the back to his best, didnt say he had been at his best all season did I?
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    Post by Guest Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:54 am

    Gatsby wrote:Hence the back to his best, didnt say he had been at his best all season did I?
    Biggest part of Cole's best was his consistency, v Barcelone he kept Sanchez onside for a one on one, this is not his best, this is a huge error.
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    Post by Sean Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:57 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    Gatsby wrote:Hence the back to his best, didnt say he had been at his best all season did I?
    Biggest part of Cole's best was his consistency, v Barcelone he kept Sanchez onside for a one on one, this is not his best, this is a huge error.

    Ok.
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    Post by FishnChips Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:58 am

    Torres was brilliant today, I really hope he keeps his momentum going. Also nice to see Sturra score and Sam getting some time.

    I agree, Bosingwa's true calling might be at CB.
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    Post by Guest Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:59 am

    Where else was he meant to be at his best then other then the Barca games where your whole team defended well with 10 defenders.. QPR in a game where you won 6-1? Cole's best was being isolated by wingers and destroying them one on one.
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    Post by Sean Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:03 am

    kyro7 wrote:Where else was he meant to be at his best then other then the Barca games where your whole team defended well with 10 defenders.. QPR in a game where you won 6-1? Cole's best was being isolated by wingers and destroying them one on one.

    Ok.
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    Post by Guest Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:06 am

    kyro back to his best
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    Post by Cam Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:06 am

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7716554/

    It solely seems to represent more free-thinking from Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich, as Di Matteo said of the acquisition of Marin: "I tend to give my recommendation but, ultimately, the club decides who they want to sign.

    "He's a very good player, technically very good, skilful.

    "He will add some qualities to this team."

    Abramovich has in the past been rumoured to have gone over the head of his Chelsea managers and the decision to sign Fernando Torres, who scored a hat-trick against QPR, in January 2011 is considered one of the signs of a breakdown in his relationship with Carlo Ancelotti.

    Surely that's not healthy for a club to buy players who they want rather than who the managers want. shifty
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:07 am

    Gatsby wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Biggest
    part of Cole's best was his consistency, v Barcelone he kept Sanchez
    onside for a one on one, this is not his best, this is a huge error.

    Ok.

    Gatsby wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:Where else was he meant to be at his best then other then the Barca games where your whole team defended well with 10 defenders.. QPR in a game where you won 6-1? Cole's best was being isolated by wingers and destroying them one on one.

    Ok.

    Can't think of anything else? shifty

    I agree with kyro, can't call him 'back to his best' which implies his prime after two games.
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    Post by luke. Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:08 am

    Cam wrote:http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7716554/

    It solely seems to represent more free-thinking from Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich, as Di Matteo said of the acquisition of Marin: "I tend to give my recommendation but, ultimately, the club decides who they want to sign.

    "He's a very good player, technically very good, skilful.

    "He will add some qualities to this team."

    Abramovich has in the past been rumoured to have gone over the head of his Chelsea managers and the decision to sign Fernando Torres, who scored a hat-trick against QPR, in January 2011 is considered one of the signs of a breakdown in his relationship with Carlo Ancelotti.

    Surely that's not healthy for a club to buy players who they want rather than who the managers want. shifty

    inb4 kyro says AvB policy

    I think the club has a certain image that it wants to achieve though, and the manager isn't exactly in charge of that, they're just in charge of the players, as Ancelotti said himself, he was basically no more than a coach.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:09 am

    You'd of thought they would have learnt their lesson by now.. Shevchenko, Lukaku, Torres, Bosingwa (Signed when Avram was there) and Zhirkov all club signings that have cost Chelsea about 135m? Not saying the Marin signing is bad especially at 6m but it's certainly not worked in the long run.
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    Post by Sean Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:10 am

    Gegilworld93 wrote:
    Gatsby wrote:

    Ok.

    Gatsby wrote:

    Ok.

    Can't think of anything else? shifty

    I agree with kyro, can't call him 'back to his best' which implies his prime after two games.

    Not, thats just how Kyro always responds, plus I couldnt really be bothered arguing, all I said was he's played well the last couple of games and asked if he was back to his best, if people disagree thats fine.
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:11 am

    Cam wrote:http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7716554/

    It solely seems to represent more free-thinking from Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich, as Di Matteo said of the acquisition of Marin: "I tend to give my recommendation but, ultimately, the club decides who they want to sign.

    "He's a very good player, technically very good, skilful.

    "He will add some qualities to this team."

    Abramovich has in the past been rumoured to have gone over the head of his Chelsea managers and the decision to sign Fernando Torres, who scored a hat-trick against QPR, in January 2011 is considered one of the signs of a breakdown in his relationship with Carlo Ancelotti.

    Surely that's not healthy for a club to buy players who they want rather than who the managers want. Chelsea FC Official thread - Page 14 279869
    Yeah AVB said something similar, that Lukaku and De Bruyne were long-term-choices from the club rather than himself. In Germany etc where managers are something different than in England and there are coaches and sports directors deciding transfers together it's normal but I think the actual manager should always have the last word.
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    Post by Guest Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:11 am

    Gatsby wrote:Not, thats just how Kyro always responds
    U WOT
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    Post by luke. Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:13 am

    Theo Filippo wrote:You'd of thought they would have learnt their lesson by now.. Shevchenko, Lukaku, Torres, Bosingwa (Signed when Avram was there) and Zhirkov all club signings that have cost Chelsea about 135m? Not saying the Marin signing is bad especially at 6m but it's certainly not worked in the long run.

    Can't put Lukaku down as a flop, he's still just a kid Laughing , or Torres as it looks like he's finally realised he's fucking Fernando Torres.

    The Marin deal is good though, cause he was cheap, young, and if it goes tits up we'll still probably be able to at least make that £6m back.
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    Post by Sean Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:14 am

    Theo Filippo wrote:You'd of thought they would have learnt their lesson by now.. Shevchenko, Lukaku, Torres, Bosingwa (Signed when Avram was there) and Zhirkov all club signings that have cost Chelsea about 135m? Not saying the Marin signing is bad especially at 6m but it's certainly not worked in the long run.

    I think we signed Bosingwa when Scolari was manager, It seems to make sense, also can hardly call Lukaku a failure when he's just arrived and is still so young. I do agree with your general point though.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:14 am

    luke. wrote:
    Theo Filippo wrote:You'd of thought they would have learnt their lesson by now.. Shevchenko, Lukaku, Torres, Bosingwa (Signed when Avram was there) and Zhirkov all club signings that have cost Chelsea about 135m? Not saying the Marin signing is bad especially at 6m but it's certainly not worked in the long run.

    Can't put Lukaku down as a flop, he's still just a kid Laughing , or Torres as it looks like he's finally realised he's fucking Fernando Torres.

    The Marin deal is good though, cause he was cheap, young, and if it goes tits up we'll still probably be able to at least make that £6m back.
    I know I'm not writing them off but look how much has been spent on signings the manager hasn't really approved of. Mind you the last deal the club did with a German wasn't bad. shifty
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    Post by Theo Filippo Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:16 am

    Gatsby wrote:
    Theo Filippo wrote:You'd of thought they would have learnt their lesson by now.. Shevchenko, Lukaku, Torres, Bosingwa (Signed when Avram was there) and Zhirkov all club signings that have cost Chelsea about 135m? Not saying the Marin signing is bad especially at 6m but it's certainly not worked in the long run.

    I think we signed Bosingwa when Scolari was manager, It seems to make sense, also can hardly call Lukaku a failure when he's just arrived and is still so young. I do agree with your general point though.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7395831.stm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7418774.stm

    shifty

    Might have spoke to Scolari before they sacked Grant I guess.
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    Post by Marvin Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:17 am

    FishnChips wrote:Torres was brilliant today, I really hope he keeps his momentum going. Also nice to see Sturra score and Sam getting some time.

    I agree, Bosingwa's true calling might be at CB.
    Didn't he play CB v Spurs at some stage this season? I remember him playing there early in the season and he looked good then too.
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    Post by luke. Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:27 am

    Or it could be that the rumours that Joachim Low taking over as manager are correct and he wanted Marin Mischief
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    Post by Theo Filippo Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:27 am

    Yeah wants him so bad he won't put him in the Germany squad for Euro 2012. Chelsea FC Official thread - Page 14 3925848005
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    Post by Sean Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:28 am

    Marvin wrote:
    FishnChips wrote:Torres was brilliant today, I really hope he keeps his momentum going. Also nice to see Sturra score and Sam getting some time.

    I agree, Bosingwa's true calling might be at CB.
    Didn't he play CB v Spurs at some stage this season? I remember him playing there early in the season and he looked good then too.

    Oh yea, him at CB and Ferrira at RB, seems to work ok for some reason
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    Post by luke. Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:29 am

    Theo Filippo wrote:Yeah wants him so bad he won't put him in the Germany squad for Euro 2012. Chelsea FC Official thread - Page 14 3925848005

    Can't make it too obvious, plus he needs him nice and fresh for next season shifty
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    Post by FishnChips Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:31 am

    Marvin wrote:
    FishnChips wrote:Torres was brilliant today, I really hope he keeps his momentum going. Also nice to see Sturra score and Sam getting some time.

    I agree, Bosingwa's true calling might be at CB.
    Didn't he play CB v Spurs at some stage this season? I remember him playing there early in the season and he looked good then too.
    He did, and also did well against Barcelona and to be fair to him he also did a good job as a leftback also against Barcelona in 2009.
    luke. wrote:Or it could be that the rumours that Joachim Low taking over as manager are correct and he wanted Marin Chelsea FC Official thread - Page 14 784961
    I hope not. Robbie deserves at least a year more.
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    Post by Marvin Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:36 am

    FishnChips wrote:
    Marvin wrote:Didn't he play CB v Spurs at some stage this season? I remember him playing there early in the season and he looked good then too.
    He did, and also did well against Barcelona and to be fair to him he also did a good job as a leftback also against Barcelona in 2009.
    luke. wrote:Or it could be that the rumours that Joachim Low taking over as manager are correct and he wanted Marin Chelsea FC Official thread - Page 14 784961
    I hope not. Robbie deserves at least a year more.
    He was a brick wall at LB. not worthy

    Nice to have someone who can play all along the back four.
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    Post by Guest Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:53 am

    all competitions torres

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    Post by Guest Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:53 am

    luke. wrote:I was thinking that earlier Sean, pretty much since the Barcelona game he's been unstoppable. Must've been Bertrand starting ahead of him against Wigan that kicked him in the balls.

    I like how we just sang 'We need a song for Ramires, a song for Ramires' instead of actually giving him a proper song today. shifty

    Lmao, unstoppable.

    FishnChips wrote:Torres was brilliant today, I really hope he keeps his momentum going. Also nice to see Sturra score and Sam getting some time.

    I agree, Bosingwa's true calling might be at CB.

    You the new Dean? "Sturra" .. facepalm
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    Post by zeke_cross Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:56 am

    Hoping Marin will be another Mata case, would love another world class star, haven't seen him enough though. hehe

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