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Liverpool FC Official Thread
ResurrectionRooney-
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- Post n°451
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So what is it Dan - is the use of Negro acceptable but the arm pinching is racist, or is the use of Negro racist but the arm pinching is acceptable?
You can't have it both ways.
You can't have it both ways.
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- Post n°452
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Funny how John Barnes is still defending Suarez eh?
Says a lot.
Says a lot.
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- Post n°453
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:So what is it Dan - is the use of Negro acceptable but the arm pinching is racist, or is the use of Negro racist but the arm pinching is acceptable?
You can't have it both ways.
How can pinching be racist? Because Evra has a different colour of skin?
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I can't wait to hear more of Garth Crooks' views on this
ResurrectionRooney-
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Dan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:So what is it Dan - is the use of Negro acceptable but the arm pinching is racist, or is the use of Negro racist but the arm pinching is acceptable?
You can't have it both ways.
How can pinching be racist? Because Evra has a different colour of skin?
In South America, yes. Is it the South American interpretation that's paramount, or the English interpretation though.
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- Post n°456
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"We found that Mr Evra's account is probably what happened."
"We preferred the evidence of Mr Evra"
Interesting.
"We preferred the evidence of Mr Evra"
Interesting.
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- Post n°458
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That is the question. Suarez is South American, but he has lived in Europe for a few years. Whether he has learned since then, who knows.ResurrectionRooney wrote:Dan wrote:
How can pinching be racist? Because Evra has a different colour of skin?
In South America, yes. Is it the South American interpretation that's paramount, or the English interpretation though.
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Jordo wrote: "We found that Mr Evra's account is probably what happened."
Interesting.
That's the only standard of proof necessary.
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That's all they need in a civil case, I believe.Jordo wrote: "We found that Mr Evra's account is probably what happened."
Interesting.
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If you actually bothered to read the document you would know this. I even made the point earlier in this thread.
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Cadbury wrote:Whatever.
I'm bored of this thread being filled with all this Suarez/Evra stuff. We should be talking about Carroll and where he should cut his hair.
LOL. Think you meant whether.
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Beowulf wrote:Cadbury wrote:Whatever.
I'm bored of this thread being filled with all this Suarez/Evra stuff. We should be talking about Carroll and where he should cut his hair.
LOL. Think you meant whether.
I'm disabling this autocorrect thing.
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- Post n°464
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makes sense, Evra has no reason to lie while Suárez is scared of the 8 game ban, losing his reputation and maybe damaging his career.Jordo wrote: "We found that Mr Evra's account is probably what happened."
"We preferred the evidence of Mr Evra"
Interesting.
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- Post n°465
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Beowulf wrote:Cadbury wrote:Whatever.
I'm bored of this thread being filled with all this Suarez/Evra stuff. We should be talking about Carroll and where he should cut his hair.
LOL. Think you meant whether.
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- Post n°466
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Gegilworld93 wrote:makes sense, Evra has no reason to lie while Suárez is scared of the 8 game ban, losing his reputation and maybe damaging his career.Jordo wrote: "We found that Mr Evra's account is probably what happened."
"We preferred the evidence of Mr Evra"
Interesting.
Fuck right off.
That is the problem with this whole case, Evra is trustworthy because he is the accuser, and Suarez isn't because he's trying to get off the charge? Is that correct.
Disgusting.
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Mr Dalglish does not speak Spanish, other than what he called "restaurant Spanish"
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- Post n°468
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Anything to detract attention away from Man United's pathetic result today.
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Mr Evra then said that he was going to kick Mr Suarez, to which Mr Suarez told him to shut up
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tell me what reason Evra has to lie.Dan wrote:Gegilworld93 wrote:
makes sense, Evra has no reason to lie while Suárez is scared of the 8 game ban, losing his reputation and maybe damaging his career.
Fuck right off.
That is the problem with this whole case, Evra is trustworthy because he is the accuser, and Suarez isn't because he's trying to get off the charge? Is that correct.
Disgusting.
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Gegilworld93 wrote:tell me what reason Evra has to lie.Dan wrote:
Fuck right off.
That is the problem with this whole case, Evra is trustworthy because he is the accuser, and Suarez isn't because he's trying to get off the charge? Is that correct.
Disgusting.
Tell me why you are assuming Suarez is lying?
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Dan wrote:Gegilworld93 wrote:
tell me what reason Evra has to lie.
Tell me why you are assuming Suarez is lying?
Suarez has a reason to lie, Evra does not.
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As I said, scared of damaging his reputation and career plus the 8-game-ban.Dan wrote:Gegilworld93 wrote:
tell me what reason Evra has to lie.
Tell me why you are assuming Suarez is lying?
Your turn now.
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- Post n°474
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There's no way we can appeal the ruling. The best we can hope for is an appeal of the extent of the punishment.
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The punishment is nowhere near long enough.
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- Post n°476
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I've not stated that Evra is lying. Because I don't think like that.
But let me get this right, because Evra is the accuser, he is completely trustworthy and Suarez has to be lying because what he says contradicts the version Evra has stated?
But let me get this right, because Evra is the accuser, he is completely trustworthy and Suarez has to be lying because what he says contradicts the version Evra has stated?
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Dan wrote:I've not stated that Evra is lying. Because I don't think like that.
But let me get this right, because Evra is the accuser, he is completely trustworthy and Suarez has to be lying because what he says contradicts the version Evra has stated?
Not at all, but it's worth considering each man's incentive to lie, no?
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True, but that doesn't prove that either is lying. To assume that one is based on that is unfair.
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Dan wrote:True, but that doesn't prove that either is lying. To assume that one is based on that is unfair.
Of course, but it is worth considering alongside all the other evidence, which invariably favours Evra.
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Saying that pinching attempted to defuse the situation I would be a better lawyer for Suarez.