Liverpool FC Official Thread

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:I'd like to see Dalglish and Liverpool heavily fined for the ridiculous Suarez tshirts which look even more embarrassing now

COYS wrote:

Cadbury wrote:

What shite? .

There's like no Spurs fans on here to piss off anyway. Unless it was my views on Scott Fucking Parker?

Saying Spurs will implode and be relegated and shit from a few of you a little while ago. Saying King was average and I'd know that If I watched him. To name 2 off my head.

So yeah. You post shit, I post shit.

Jeff wrote:Point you up for some clubing after or are you going out with it being new year soon and all?

Dan wrote:Mr Ferguson said that as he was speaking to David De Gea, Mr Evra approached him. He said
"Boss, Suarez called me a ice cream." It was obvious to Mr Ferguson that Mr Evra was upset and
angry.


I thought it was 'blackie, blackie, blackie'?

Cadbury wrote:

COYS wrote:

Saying Spurs will implode and be relegated and shit from a few of you a little while ago. Saying King was average and I'd know that If I watched him. To name 2 off my head.

So yeah. You post shit, I post shit.

Wow. You really have it bad don't you?

The standard of proof

76. Regulation 7.3 of the Disciplinary Regulations is in these terms:
"The applicable standard of proof shall be the flexible civil standard of the balance of
probability. The more serious the allegation, taking into account the nature of the
Misconduct alleged and the context of the case, the greater the burden of evidence
required to prove the matter."

77. There are two different standards of proof which can apply in legal cases. One is the
criminal standard which applies in criminal cases. The jury must be satisfied beyond a
reasonable doubt, or as it is sometimes put, so that it is sure, that the accused committed
the alleged crime.

78. The other standard is the civil standard on the balance of probability. This is enshrined in

Regulation 7.3 set out above, and applies to this case. It is a lower standard than the
criminal standard. It is for the FA to satisfy us on the balance of probability that Mr Suarez
breached the Rules. Alternative formulations for the civil standard are sometimes used,
such as more likely than not to be correct, or probably correct.

79. Regulation 7.3 includes an important reference to the civil standard of proof being flexible.

This means, as the Regulation states, that the more serious the allegation, taking into
account the nature of the Misconduct alleged and the context of the case, the greater the
burden of evidence required to prove the matter. This is sometimes described in this way:
the more serious the allegation, the less likely it is to have happened, and therefore the 25
greater the burden of evidence required to prove that it did. This does not set the standard
any higher than the balance of probability. But, the more serious the allegation, the
greater the burden of evidence required to prove the matter to that standard.

80. The FA accepts that the Charge against Mr Suarez is serious, as do we. It is for this reason
that we have reminded ourselves that a greater burden of evidence is required to prove
the Charge against Mr Suarez.

Dan wrote:

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:I'd like to see Dalglish and Liverpool heavily fined for the ridiculous Suarez tshirts which look even more embarrassing now

Why, have you got some evidence to prove what Suarez said?

kyro7 wrote:

Dan wrote:Mr Ferguson said that as he was speaking to David De Gea, Mr Evra approached him. He said
"Boss, Suarez called me a ice cream." It was obvious to Mr Ferguson that Mr Evra was upset and
angry.


I thought it was 'blackie, blackie, blackie'?

Isn't the blackie in translation of what Suarez actually said?

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:

Dan wrote:

Why, have you got some evidence to prove what Suarez said?

No, but the FA do.
It was all in good fun though. Banterous suarez.

Scott MacDougall wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Hasn't Suarez admitted saying it anyway?

Not in a racist way, and not fucking 100 times like Evra is saying. I'm sure someone would've heard 'negro, negro, negro' and it defo would be captured on camera.

Who the fuck says Negro three times anyway?

Sean wrote:I personally find Chelsea fans minus Luke and that other guy, and that other guy who sometimes comes on to be least biased tbh

Jeff wrote:I'm not biased

Dan wrote:

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:
No, but the FA do.
It was all in good fun though. Banterous suarez.

Do they really?

Please show me some.

This might be key line in FA findings: Suarez's explanation for calling Evra a negro "was unsustainable and simply incredible"

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:

Dan wrote:

Do they really?

Please show me some.

I don't have acsess to it, sorry.
His defense is enough to convict him...

Dan wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Isn't the blackie in translation of what Suarez actually said?

Yeah, but Evra said it was the n-word that black people use in raps.

Rather than the Spanish word for black, which is what is said Suarez used later.

At the time, Mr Evra understood this to mean "Okay, ice cream, ice cream, ice cream". He now says it means "Okay,
blackie, blackie, blackie"

Dan wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Isn't the blackie in translation of what Suarez actually said?

Yeah, but Evra said it was the n-word that black people use in raps.

Rather than the Spanish word for black, which is what is said Suarez used later.

Dan wrote:

Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:
I don't have acsess to it, sorry.
His defense is enough to convict him...

Aww, so in other words, you're chatting shit.

See ya later. Enjoy the New Year.

Gegilworld93 wrote:

Dan wrote:

Yeah, but Evra said it was the n-word that black people use in raps.

Rather than the Spanish word for black, which is what is said Suarez used later.

At the time, Mr Evra understood this to mean "Okay, ice cream, ice cream, ice cream". He now says it means "Okay,
blackie, blackie, blackie"

Gegilworld93 wrote:

Dan wrote:

Yeah, but Evra said it was the n-word that black people use in raps.

Rather than the Spanish word for black, which is what is said Suarez used later.

At the time, Mr Evra understood this to mean "Okay, ice cream, ice cream, ice cream". He now says it means "Okay,
blackie, blackie, blackie"

Gegilworld93 wrote:

Dan wrote:

Yeah, but Evra said it was the n-word that black people use in raps.

Rather than the Spanish word for black, which is what is said Suarez used later.

At the time, Mr Evra understood this to mean "Okay, ice cream, ice cream, ice cream". He now says it means "Okay,
blackie, blackie, blackie"

kyro7 wrote:

Dan wrote:

Yeah, but Evra said it was the n-word that black people use in raps.

Rather than the Spanish word for black, which is what is said Suarez used later.

Fergie probably doesn't even know what the hell Negrito is and thought it was n!gger.

Dan wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Fergie probably doesn't even know what the hell Negrito is and thought it was n!gger.

No, that's what Evra said to Fergie.

kyro7 wrote:

Dan wrote:

No, that's what Evra said to Fergie.

Says who?