Manchester United FC Official Thread

Agreed, thought this was the toughest test from our last 4 games remaining from now till the new year and we were superb, if we can keep this kind of form then we might reach City. They've got a tough fixture list in January so they might drop points there and hopefully we will capitalise.

Oh yeah, do City play Liverpool in the league cup semi in January?

Yes..

Former Manchester United captain Roy Keane has opened up on his tense
relationship with Red Devils manager Alex Ferguson and has defended his
right to criticise his former club. Following United's embarrassing exit from the Champions League last week
Keane, working as a television pundit, said he felt Manchester United
had "got what they deserved".
In response, Ferguson questioned Keane's managerial record, saying
"[Roy] had an opportunity to prove himself as a manager [of Sunderland
and Ipswich Town] too."
The 12-time Premier League-winning manager also wrote in his programme
notes for the recent game against Wolves that he was surprised by
criticism "even from people we thought were perhaps on our side".
Keane, who played under Ferguson in seven of United's 12 Premier League
title-winning seasons, hit back at his former manager, saying: "There
was an angle there of trying to get the fans to look differently at me
and I thought 'I can't have that'. I thought it was ridiculous.
"I can hardly do the TV wearing the United scarf, and if me telling the
young players to pull their socks up is such a hard thing to accept, I
ask myself what kind of world are we living in.
"I know how this works, absolutely.
"When I spoke to Alex about management before I left United, the two words he always used were power and control.
"I understand power and control over people inside the football club,
understand that 100 per cent. But not power and control of the people
who have left the club.
"He's trying to have power and control over me but I left Man United six years ago.
"So I just thought, 'You didn't need to go there', but having said that, it didn’t surprise me.
"If you want to question my managerial record, listen, you could
question every pundit’s managerial skill in relation to his and we’re
all going to come up short.
"But I would also say that without players like myself, maybe he
wouldn't have such a good managerial record because players who go down
the punditry road, it's soon forgotten that we put bodies on the line
for him."
Keane also opened old wounds, accusing Ferguson of failing to stand by him following his ugly exit from United in 2005.
"People say he stood by me in difficult times," Keane said.
"But he didn't when I was 34, not when I was towards the end and had a few differences with [club coach] Carlos Queiroz.
"All of a sudden then, 'Off you go, Roy, and here's the statement we've done'."
Keane also revealed his former employers threatened to take legal action
against him in April 2008 after he criticised the club following his
move to Celtic which, in turn, led to him snubbing the 25th anniversary
celebrations of Ferguson's tenure in charge.



"But I would also say that without players like myself, maybe he
wouldn't have such a good managerial record because players who go down
the punditry road, it's soon forgotten that we put bodies on the line
for him." That line in particular stood out to me.

Already posted.

All came from Keano speaking the truth.

Kuled wrote:Already posted.

I think you will find that is the first time I posted my views on Keane's quote.

Oh I just thought that you were pasting the same article about keane a few pages back Didn't read it, just saw Roy Keane and thought it was the one posted before

That interview supports what I said about Alexander Ferguson, about his autocracy, his need to constantly be in control. I have no idea how Queiroz, a former international and Real Madrid manager ever got a job as Ass. Man. at United, but it was a highly successful period when he was, because he wasn't afraid to stand up to Ferguson.

Kuled wrote:Oh I just thought that you were pasting the same article about keane a few pages back Didn't read it, just saw Roy Keane and thought it was the one posted before

I knew my loyal readers in this thread were anxiously awaiting my neutral opinion on the matter.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:That interview supports what I said about Alexander Ferguson, about his autocracy, his need to constantly be in control. I have no idea how Queiroz, a former international and Real Madrid manager ever got a job as Ass. Man. at United, but it was a highly successful period when he was, because he wasn't afraid to stand up to Ferguson.

well duh he is the fucking manager he aint gonna let a player run the club is he

"I told myself I've just tasted it, now I want to eat it - I want all the cake now! I want to play, work hard and do my best to get in the first-team squad.""I told myself I've just tasted it, now I want to eat it - I want all the cake now! I want to play, work hard and do my best to get in the first-team squad." - Pogba
That's great stuff, obviously means he'll sign the contract.

Sack Fergie, what has this man done for Manchester United and how do they keep him as manager. Horrible human being he is and well RR already told you so.

Kuled wrote:"I told myself I've just tasted it, now I want to eat it - I want all the cake now! I want to play, work hard and do my best to get in the first-team squad.""I told myself I've just tasted it, now I want to eat it - I want all the cake now! I want to play, work hard and do my best to get in the first-team squad." - Pogba
That's great stuff, obviously means he'll sign the contract.

then why isnt he signing the contract....

I think he will, eventually

£30million rated Nicolas Gaitan on his way to Manchester United. [independent]

Don't believe it at all.

Who is this guy

I Andy I wrote:£30million rated Nicolas Gaitan on his way to Manchester United. [independent]

£30m

He's a good player and will help you a lot if SAF can get him back into a good run of form, from the little I've seen of him this year he doesn't look half as good as last season

why are we signing him. until i see him in Manchester its BS anyway

ViVaRooney wrote:why are we signing him. until i see him in Manchester its BS anyway

Seeing him in Manchester wont decide anything, he might be on his way to City.

ViVaRooney wrote:why are we signing him. until i see him in Manchester its BS anyway

Because he ripped us a new one when we played against Benfica. It seems to be the way we find new players these days.

Edit:

Also, I don't really care how autocratic Fergie is. He gets results, he keeps our players mostly under control, and he doesn't tolerate bullshit (although more now than before unfortunately). I can assure you that José Mourinho and Pep Guardiola are equally autocratic. Fergie isn't wrong when he says that "the most important person in the club is the manager, and the players can never forget that". Just look at Chelsea.

Alan wrote:

ViVaRooney wrote:why are we signing him. until i see him in Manchester its BS anyway

Seeing him in Manchester wont decide anything, he might be on his way to City.

Depends who you see him with.

£30m is a lot to be fair, but imo he's better than Di Maria so it's worth it.

Marvin wrote:£30m is a lot to be fair, but imo he's better than Di Maria so it's worth it.

He is? I've heard that we won't get him this January though, but maybe we are paying that bit extra so that Benfica will be nice with us and release him early

no Benfica want 45m euros

we are paying less for him so we will get him next summer (according to reports)

Danny wrote:

Alan wrote:Seeing him in Manchester wont decide anything, he might be on his way to City.

Depends who you see him with.

Very true Danny, Maybe Tevez could welcome him to Manchester.

i just checked and he is only 23, if he is great player already then i can see us paying that much

Alan wrote:

Danny wrote:Depends who you see him with.

Very true Danny, Maybe Tevez could welcome him to Manchester.

hardly since he said he would never step foot in england ever again

but i know what you were doin

ViVaRooney wrote:no Benfica want 45m euros

we are paying less for him so we will get him next summer (according to reports)

As long as we get him I guess. Still need better midfielders though