Liverpool FC Official Thread

Scott wrote:We're going to get raped. The only reason I'm calm about it, is the fact there's no shame in losing to City. No one will laugh at us, because it's expected that we'll lose.

Just hope we can keep the scoreline respectable.

Jord wrote:Have faith eh? You didn't think we'd beat Chelsea didn't you Scott? And we dominated them. I know City are a different kettle of fish but I honestly believe we can beat them.

Jeffharper2012 wrote:We beat them last season so i dont see why we cant beat them this. tho they are better but still so are we also i hope carrol doesn't start maxi and bellamy should start again.

Mr Leiva wrote:If Carragher starts tomorrow, or Skrtel or Agger are dropped. I am going to find the nearest tree. Climb up it, and dive head first off it.

Mr Leiva wrote:If Carragher starts tomorrow, or Skrtel or Agger are dropped. I am going to find the nearest tree. Climb up it, and dive head first off it.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Mr Leiva wrote:If Carragher starts tomorrow, or Skrtel or Agger are dropped. I am going to find the nearest tree. Climb up it, and dive head first off it.

Cam wrote:If we play the same team as we did against Chelsea, I think we'll be alright. Still think we'll lose, but if I doubt it'll be a one sided game.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

Mr Leiva wrote:If Carragher starts tomorrow, or Skrtel or Agger are dropped. I am going to find the nearest tree. Climb up it, and dive head first off it.

Jord wrote:Enrique v Richards will be interesting but at least Enrique is the best LB in the league.. Richards isn't the best anything.

Cam wrote:If we play the same team as we did against Chelsea, I think we'll be alright. Still think we'll lose, but if I doubt it'll be a one sided game.

Scott wrote:

Cam wrote:If we play the same team as we did against Chelsea, I think we'll be alright. Still think we'll lose, but if I doubt it'll be a one sided game.

Hmm. I'm not so sure. I can just picture Silva, Aguero, Nasri, Yaya Toure and Balotelli passing it around our defence like it's not even there.

Jord wrote:

Scott wrote:


Hmm. I'm not so sure. I can just picture Silva, Aguero, Nasri, Yaya Toure and Balotelli passing it around our defence like it's not even there.

And then I can imagine Suarez pulling off some majestic skill and scoring the winner. Skill that no-one in their team could ever dream of doing.

Scott wrote:

Jord wrote:And then I can imagine Suarez pulling off some majestic skill and scoring the winner. Skill that no-one in their team could ever dream of doing.

Against City's defence?

Jamie Carragher 'accepts and understands' why he was on the bench last weekend - but believes he still has a big part to play in Liverpool's quest for glory.

In an in-depth interview with the Daily Telegraph, the 33-year-old reflected on being omitted from the starting XI against Chelsea last Sunday - the first time he has missed an important game when available for 11 seasons.

He said: "I am not the future of Liverpool. Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel and Sebastian Coates are. But I can still be part of the present for a few more years. It's only one game I've not been selected so it's not the end yet.

"Over the last decade if I had missed a match I would have gone straight back into the team when available. This time I didn't and I have to accept it, agree with it and understand it. I was out for a couple of weeks and the lads who came in did really well. I've always said mental strength is important in every player and this is another test of that.

"In the past there were people saying if Steven Gerrard and me weren't playing there was a problem, but now you look at it and say out of the last three games we've won two away from home. That's good for the club. We have to look to the future. I'm sure the manager, Damien Comolli and owners are looking at that while wanting to make sure we're doing everything to win from one week to the next. I think I can speak for Stevie too when I say we're desperate to help the club win trophies as much as we can, whether we play all the games or not.

"That has always been our aim. I still always want to play the next game, but this club has been great to me and I will never be disrespectful to it or to anyone who is selected ahead of me. That was one of the things Gérard Houllier always said to me. You must respect those that are playing, especially those in your position.

"If I've played nearly 700 games for Liverpool, it means someone else has been on the bench showing respect for me, so I have no problem when it is the other way around. I am at one of the biggest teams in the world, a club which is looking for players in every country. We're not some Mickey Mouse club short of top-class players so to have been able to go straight back into the team every time for so long has been a great achievement.

"You want to be involved and you're disappointed when you are not, but I am aware my situation is changing over the next few years. Last weekend may have been one of the first signs of that."

Carragher's leadership on the pitch and the knowledge he displays in interviews and TV appearances have led many to assume he will become a manager one day.

But that is not necessarily the case.

"I have an idea what I would like to do," he said. "You're basically left with two options when you finish: the managerial route or a media job. Whatever's best for my family and me will determine that. I'm not 100 per cent certain to become a manager because I won't take any job just to stay in the game and I have done some media work, which I enjoy.

"In my first year after retiring I will take time out with the family and also try to see how different coaches work. Maybe I will try to see how Pep Guardiola, Jose Mourinho and some of the top Italian coaches work on the training ground. Arsène Wenger, too. I try and analyse everything - why a manager has made one decision over another. It's not to be critical; it is because I always think about the game after it's been played. Management is getting more difficult because everyone has an opinion now. It used to just be the press, but now it is the public through social networking on Twitter, Facebook and whatever else.


"People need to understand how difficult it is for players to go straight into coaching. Andre Villas-Boas started his coaching badge at 16, so think how far ahead he is of a player just starting that process in his early thirties. It takes a long time to get the qualifications, although you pick up experience and knowledge from playing.

"Stuart Pearce organised it for me to spend time on the FA licence course in Reading last summer and I really enjoyed it and I will definitely do the two-week course needed to pass all my badges."

The FA is keen for Carragher to become one of its elite coaches, according to the Daily Telegraph.

But if one of Liverpool's greatest ever players does go on to have a say in how the game develops in this country, he would want to see English football create its own identity rather than trying to be a third-rate copy of someone else.

"We all want to play the Barcelona way, but we can't," he said. "People are getting too obsessed about copying them. Even when they're in a bit of trouble you see goalkeepers wanting to show what good footballers they are, playing it from the back. What did Sir Alex Ferguson say about David de Gea's mistake against Benfica the other night? That he should have kicked the ball into the stand. He is right, but Barcelona have changed how people think about the game.

"I love watching them play, but they had the same philosophy during the days they were struggling to qualify for the Champions League and we were beating them in the Uefa Cup. They just have players that are a lot better at it now.

"When I started everyone was saying the same about Ajax. They were the blueprint for our academy. Then everyone was talking about Clairefontaine in France. Now it's all about Le Maisa. We always want to do what everyone else has already done. It is right to study them but there is no point copying. What we have to develop is our own identity.

"I read what my friend Xabi Alonso said about tackling being perceived as a quality here, but that's part of our culture. Maybe it mattered more 20 years ago, but you can't just change the culture of a country.

"Every father who watches his son play wants him to be a great footballer, but they are also intent on making sure he is not a coward on the pitch. That's the mentality. Wenger explained it very well when he said the English always go to war.

"It's not just about being able to tackle and nothing else, but you want players with the full package. If you can develop the technique, it's competitiveness that can give us an extra edge over other countries.

"Don't give me all this 'It's the fancy dan foreign coaches' who play all the great football, either. Of all the managers I've had at Liverpool, the ones who wanted to play the most football were a fella from Bootle, Roy Evans, and a fella from Glasgow, Kenny Dalglish. I'm not saying the others wanted long-ball football, but they were more tactical and that meant doing anything to win, even if it meant hitting it early to the big man up front, Emile Heskey, who Gérard Houllier bought, or Peter Crouch, signed by Rafa Benítez.

"We would go to Europe, play 10 men behind the ball and get a result and we were very successful playing that way winning everything but the league title. It's not right to criticise that, either, but it has been like that in this country for a long time. Sven-Goran Eriksson and Fabio Capello were the same. It is always about the players you've got. It doesn't matter which way you go, the game of football is there to be won and there are many different ways to do it."