Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Keyser Söze on Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:56 am

    Glen Miller wrote:I think we are actually better suited to playing against a team like France than we would have been against Italy, the likely alternative from that situation.

    I can see what you mean. As hosts you'd think that once they hit the 1/4 finals the initiative would be on them to come out and play rather than sit back like teams England have faced in the group stages and would likely face in Italy.


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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Glen Miller on Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:13 am

    I made a mistake-it would have been Belgium, not Italy in the QFs.  I still have no idea how good Belgium is, but I suspect it would be easier on paper.  But your hypothetical is what I am hoping for.

    It's all pretty silly, at the end of the day.  I'm only mapping out which team we will lose to and when. Laughing
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Stranger on Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:00 pm

    Iceland in the next round imo.

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    Post by Scott_LFC on Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:19 pm

    Jesus Christ, the stick Henderson is getting. Was I watching a different game? He didn't do much wrong imo. Was involved in our better attacking moments. People's Club agendas have blinded them so badly when it comes to him. He created our best chance, ffs (Through ball to Vardy) I am not Henderson's biggest fan anymore, but he was decent. Rooney came on and was, imo, awful. His first 2 long passes went off the pitch and beyond that, he didn't really do much in the way of creating chances, yet it's Hendo who's getting bollocked. I like Wilshere, but he was pretty poor last night. I'm not sure what was going on with him, his passes seem to be very misplaced, etc. Wasn't the Wilshere I'm used to seeing, but I still think he should get another chance ahead of Alli, again.

    Biggest question going forward is probably, do we start Walker or Clyne? I didn't expect Clyne to have such a fire performance last night. He's really given Roy a selection headache there, as Walker has been good too. 

    Lallana has the technique of a Spanish player. He'd be so good if he had better end product, ffs, but still, he's instrumental to this side atm. Our best creator.

    Thought Rashford should have come on, not Kane, and should have replaced Vadry, not Sturridge. That was pretty poor from Roy. Sturridge seemed like the only player capable of beating a man and creating something.

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    Post by Scott_LFC on Tue Jun 21, 2016 8:23 pm

    Oh, also too much stock is being put in how Wales have looked better than us, but tbh, Russia, Wales and Slovakia all really parked the bus against us. Teams haven't really done that against Wales. If Russia/Wales/Slovakia came at us, we'd have won comfortably.

    I think we'll do better against the better sides in the Tournament.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Stranger on Tue Jun 21, 2016 9:50 pm

    Scott_LFC wrote:Oh, also too much stock is being put in how Wales have looked better than us, but tbh, Russia, Wales and Slovakia all really parked the bus against us. Teams haven't really done that against Wales. If Russia/Wales/Slovakia came at us, we'd have won comfortably.

    I think we'll do better against the better sides in the Tournament.

    So you're upset with the other teams for using tinpot tactics, but it's ok if England do it?

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    Post by Scott_LFC on Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:07 pm

    Wtf are you on about?

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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Scott_LFC on Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:25 am

    Nothing?
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Glen Miller on Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:51 am

    Scott_LFC wrote:

    Biggest question going forward is probably, do we start Walker or Clyne? I didn't expect Clyne to have such a fire performance last night. He's really given Roy a selection headache there, as Walker has been good too.
    I would consider playing Clyne at LB.

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    Post by Keyser Söze on Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:56 am

    Croatia have probably been the best side in the tournament thus far.

    If I'm not mistaken aren't England, Italy, Spain, France and Germany all on the same side of the draw now? Lol, England fucked up big time finishing 2nd.

    Getting 1st would have meant a bracket with Poland, Switzerland, Croatia, Belgium/Sweden, one or two of the shits from Group E and Northern Ireland/Turkey/Albania/Slovakia Laughing
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Glen Miller on Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:43 pm

    Yeah, I didn't think too much of finishing second until today.  Semis could have been a real possibility.

    I thought Croatia were exceptional against Turkey and except for that disastrous period against Czech Republic, they have been by far the best team.  7 points from one of the stronger groups is an excellent return, especially without Modric.  They could cruise to the final with a bit of luck.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by ResurrectionRooney on Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:51 pm

    Such a missed opportunity.  Roy Hodgson must have been some sort of humanitarian leader in a past life to be in this job.

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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Scott_LFC on Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:22 pm

    I'm glad we're gonna be facing harder teams. I think it'll spark something in our players and as I've mentioned before, they won't be parking the bus against us.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by ResurrectionRooney on Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:25 pm

    Scott_LFC wrote:I'm glad we're gonna be facing harder teams. I think it'll spark something in our players and as I've mentioned before, they won't be parking the bus against us.
    Are you saying that England have more of a chance of beating France/Germany/Italy/Spain than they do of beating Northern Ireland/Switzerland/Austria/Belgium or just that England will play better against the former?

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    Post by Scott_LFC on Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:28 pm

    We'll play better and it'll be more entertaining. Cba with the shit, boring match ups. The group games were horrendous. Think we have a 50/50 chance of beating France/Germany/Italy/Spain on our day with the right team selection.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney on Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:56 pm

    Yeah but what are the chance of it being "our day" and us making the right team selection?  I think you need to factor that into your chances of it happening.

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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Scott_LFC on Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:06 am

    I have a feeling we'll do alright.

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    Post by Keyser Söze on Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:21 am

    Laughing Iceland have done Portugal a massive favour.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by The Zlatan on Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:09 am

    Parasect wrote:I'm sure we could squeeze a Steven Naismith in somewhere.

    No! Fuck Scotland.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Stranger on Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:15 am

    Imagine a midfield without Scott Brown.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Glen Miller on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:15 am

    I'm just glad that the 3rd-place permutations nonsense is over.

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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Scott_LFC on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:29 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Scott_LFC wrote:I'm glad we're gonna be facing harder teams. I think it'll spark something in our players and as I've mentioned before, they won't be parking the bus against us.
    Are you saying that England have more of a chance of beating France/Germany/Italy/Spain than they do of beating Northern Ireland/Switzerland/Austria/Belgium or just that England will play better against the former?

    Going back to this:

    Spain were beaten by Croatia
    Germany were held to a draw by Poland
    Italy were beaten by Ireland
    France were held to a draw by Switzerland

    We've got a good chance.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by ResurrectionRooney on Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:21 pm

    Scott_LFC wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Are you saying that England have more of a chance of beating France/Germany/Italy/Spain than they do of beating Northern Ireland/Switzerland/Austria/Belgium or just that England will play better against the former?

    Going back to this:

    Spain were beaten by Croatia
    Germany were held to a draw by Poland
    Italy were beaten by Ireland
    France were held to a draw by Switzerland

    We've got a good chance.

    The crap teams had crap results as well you know.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by YukiAbe1996 on Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:30 pm

    I do kind of see his point, dominating possession against dregs isn't exactly working for us. We were unable to unlock the Russian defence who were bar far the worst team in the tournament and failed to create anything bar one chance against Slovakia. We've probably got a good chance if we play on the counter against a team that will actually press us as we've been completely out of ideas in possession so far this tournament.

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    Post by Scott_LFC on Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:06 am

    Exactly. We've got the players for it too.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by jeb4eva on Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:39 am

    Robbie Brady you fucking legend. That is all.
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by The Zlatan on Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:49 am

    Northen Irleand out of Europe twice in two days because of Wales. smug
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Stranger on Tue Jun 28, 2016 7:51 am

    A valiant effort.

    Who's going to replace Roy?
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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by The Zlatan on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:01 am

    Someone that resembles a football manager.

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    Re: Euro 2016 - 10th June-10th July

    Post by Scott_LFC on Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:07 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Scott_LFC wrote:I'm glad we're gonna be facing harder teams. I think it'll spark something in our players and as I've mentioned before, they won't be parking the bus against us.
    Are you saying that England have more of a chance of beating France/Germany/Italy/Spain than they do of beating Northern Ireland/Switzerland/Austria/Belgium or just that England will play better against the former?

    Lol.

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